Отправлено: 09.10.17 18:55. Заголовок: Адриатика и Средиземноморье 1 мировая

Различные приключения и сюжеты ...

 Отправлено: 24.12.22 19:51. Заголовок: Да уж, хороши же был..

Да уж, хороши же были детские фантазии у фон Эхенбаха... Монструятина прям типа "Дворца Джина", только расположение башен ГК отличается (у реального прототипа тройка башен была по корме) да и башни 3-орудийные...

 Отправлено: 26.12.22 21:15. Заголовок: Разрез бы. Непонятно..

Разрез бы. Непонятно, где турбины.

 Отправлено: 04.01.23 13:37. Заголовок: Итальянский аи-"..

Итальянский аи-"Томодзуро":
1) к 1 мв - laid down 1909, Displacement: 401 t light; 416 t standard; 436 t normal; 452 t full load

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Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (235,31 ft / 226,38 ft) x 19,69 ft x (6,89 / 7,07 ft) (71,72 m / 69,00 m) x 6,00 m x (2,10 / 2,15 m) Armament: 6 - 2,99" / 76,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 13,51lbs / 6,13kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1909 Model 1 x 2-gun mount on centreline, forward deck forward 2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline, aft evenly spread 2 - 1,46" / 37,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 1,56lbs / 0,71kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1909 Model 2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft Weight of broadside 84 lbs / 38 kg Main Torpedoes 9 - 17,7" / 450 mm, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m torpedoes - 0,767 t each, 6,899 t total In 3 sets of deck mounted centre rotating tubes Armour: - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 0,24" / 6 mm - - - Conning towers: Forward 0,24" / 6 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm Machinery: Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines, Geared drive, 2 shafts, 10 764 shp / 8 030 Kw = 28,00 kts Range 800nm at 12,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 35 tons (25% coal) Complement: 47 - 62 Cost: £0,051 million / $0,203 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 30 tons, 6,9% - Guns: 16 tons, 3,7% - Weapons: 14 tons, 3,2% Armour: 2 tons, 0,5% - Armament: 2 tons, 0,4% - Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0,1% Machinery: 232 tons, 53,3% Hull, fittings & equipment: 137 tons, 31,3% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 35 tons, 8,1% Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0,0% Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 133 lbs / 60 Kg = 9,9 x 3,0 " / 76 mm shells or 0,3 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,20 Metacentric height 0,6 ft / 0,2 m Roll period: 10,6 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 52 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,39 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,04 Hull form characteristics: Hull has rise forward of midbreak, a normal bow and a cruiser stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,497 / 0,502 Length to Beam Ratio: 11,50 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 15,05 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 69 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 19,00 degrees Stern overhang: 3,28 ft / 1,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 16,00%, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m - Forward deck: 26,00%, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m - Aft deck: 45,00%, 8,20 ft / 2,50 m, 8,20 ft / 2,50 m - Quarter deck: 13,00%, 8,20 ft / 2,50 m, 9,84 ft / 3,00 m - Average freeboard: 10,59 ft / 3,23 m Ship tends to be wet forward Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 181,7% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 78,7% Waterplane Area: 2 961 Square feet or 275 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 42% Structure weight / hull surface area: 21 lbs/sq ft or 104 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 0,52 - Longitudinal: 3,15 - Overall: 0,62 Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space Cramped accommodation and workspace room

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2) к 2 мв - laid down 1934, Displacement: 565 t light; 594 t standard; 609 t normal; 621 t full load

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Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (246,28 ft / 236,22 ft) x 22,97 ft x (8,20 / 8,32 ft) (75,07 m / 72,00 m) x 7,00 m x (2,50 / 2,54 m) Armament: 6 - 3,94" / 100,0 mm 43,0 cal guns - 29,80lbs / 13,52kg shells, 150 per gun Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1934 Model 1 x 2-gun mount on centreline, forward deck forward 2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline, aft evenly spread 1 raised mount aft 4 - 1,46" / 37,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 1,56lbs / 0,71kg shells, 450 per gun Auto rapid fire guns in deck mounts, 1934 Model 4 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft Weight of broadside 185 lbs / 84 kg Main Torpedoes 9 - 17,7" / 450 mm, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m torpedoes - 0,771 t each, 6,935 t total In 3 sets of deck mounted centre rotating tubes Main DC/AS Mortars 2 - 90,39 lbs / 41,00 kg Depth Charges + 8 reloads - 0,404 t total in Stern depth charge racks Armour: - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 0,24" / 6 mm - - - Conning towers: Forward 0,24" / 6 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm Machinery: Oil fired boilers, steam turbines, Geared drive, 2 shafts, 11 197 shp / 8 353 Kw = 27,00 kts Range 900nm at 12,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 27 tons Complement: 60 - 79 Cost: £0,329 million / $1,315 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 49 tons, 8,1% - Guns: 35 tons, 5,8% - Weapons: 14 tons, 2,4% Armour: 2 tons, 0,4% - Armament: 2 tons, 0,3% - Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0,1% Machinery: 275 tons, 45,2% Hull, fittings & equipment: 239 tons, 39,2% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 44 tons, 7,2% Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0,0% Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 292 lbs / 133 Kg = 9,6 x 3,9 " / 100 mm shells or 0,4 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,11 Metacentric height 0,7 ft / 0,2 m Roll period: 11,8 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 56 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,71 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,12 Hull form characteristics: Hull has rise forward of midbreak, a normal bow and a cruiser stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,479 / 0,482 Length to Beam Ratio: 10,29 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 15,37 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 68 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 19,00 degrees Stern overhang: 3,28 ft / 1,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 16,00%, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m, 14,76 ft / 4,50 m - Forward deck: 26,00%, 14,76 ft / 4,50 m, 14,76 ft / 4,50 m - Aft deck: 45,00%, 8,86 ft / 2,70 m, 8,86 ft / 2,70 m - Quarter deck: 13,00%, 8,86 ft / 2,70 m, 9,84 ft / 3,00 m - Average freeboard: 11,72 ft / 3,57 m Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 160,7% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 82,4% Waterplane Area: 3 547 Square feet or 330 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 84% Structure weight / hull surface area: 33 lbs/sq ft or 161 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 0,69 - Longitudinal: 4,36 - Overall: 0,83 Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space Cramped accommodation and workspace room

 Отправлено: 05.01.23 21:41. Заголовок: Продолжим "приму..

Продолжим "примусы починять" - оптимизированный проект аи-"Дандоло", 3 ед: laid down 1911

Displacement:
20 001 t light; 21 790 t standard; 22 222 t normal; 22 567 t full load

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Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (601,26 ft / 583,99 ft) x 86,94 ft x (22,97 / 26,12 ft) (183,26 m / 178,00 m) x 26,50 m x (7,00 / 7,96 m) Armament: 9 - 15,00" / 381 mm 42,0 cal guns - 1 636,38lbs / 742,25kg shells, 110 per gun Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1911 Model 1 x 3-gun mount on centreline, aft deck forward 2 x 3-gun mounts on centreline, forward deck aft 1 raised mount - superfiring 3 - 15,00" / 381 mm 42,0 cal guns - 1 636,38lbs / 742,25kg shells, 150 per gun Breech loading guns in deck mount, 1911 Model 1 x 3-gun mount on centreline, forward deck forward 6 - 4,72" / 120 mm 45,0 cal guns - 53,17lbs / 24,12kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1911 Model 2 x 3-gun mounts on centreline, aft deck aft 1 raised mount - superfiring 8 - 2,99" / 76,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 13,51lbs / 6,13kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1911 Model 8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread 8 raised mounts 12 - 0,47" / 12,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 0,05lbs / 0,02kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1911 Model 12 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread 12 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in all but light seas Weight of broadside 20 064 lbs / 9 101 kg Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 11,8" / 300 mm 387,14 ft / 118,00 m 9,84 ft / 3,00 m Ends: 2,36" / 60 mm 170,60 ft / 52,00 m 9,84 ft / 3,00 m 26,25 ft / 8,00 m Unarmoured ends Main Belt covers 102% of normal length - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 11,8" / 300 mm 3,94" / 100 mm 11,8" / 300 mm 2nd: 11,8" / 300 mm 3,94" / 100 mm 11,8" / 300 mm 3rd: 3,94" / 100 mm 1,18" / 30 mm 3,94" / 100 mm 5th: 1,18" / 30 mm 0,39" / 10 mm - - Protected deck - single deck: For and Aft decks: 1,57" / 40 mm Forecastle: 0,87" / 22 mm Quarter deck: 1,18" / 30 mm - Conning towers: Forward 9,84" / 250 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm Machinery: Oil fired boilers, steam turbines, Geared drive, 4 shafts, 47 245 shp / 35 245 Kw = 24,00 kts Range 1 600nm at 12,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 776 tons Complement: 909 - 1 183 Cost: £2,500 million / $9,999 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 3 414 tons, 15,4% - Guns: 3 414 tons, 15,4% Armour: 5 469 tons, 24,6% - Belts: 2 112 tons, 9,5% - Armament: 2 071 tons, 9,3% - Armour Deck: 1 119 tons, 5,0% - Conning Tower: 168 tons, 0,8% Machinery: 1 917 tons, 8,6% Hull, fittings & equipment: 9 200 tons, 41,4% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2 220 tons, 10,0% Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0,0% Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 22 766 lbs / 10 327 Kg = 13,5 x 15,0 " / 381 mm shells or 2,5 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,14 Metacentric height 5,2 ft / 1,6 m Roll period: 16,1 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 52 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,99 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,04 Hull form characteristics: Hull has raised forecastle, raised quarterdeck , a normal bow and small transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,667 / 0,595 Length to Beam Ratio: 6,72 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 26,15 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 51 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 21,00 degrees Stern overhang: 6,56 ft / 2,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 19,00%, 27,89 ft / 8,50 m, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m - Forward deck: 30,00%, 14,76 ft / 4,50 m, 14,76 ft / 4,50 m - Aft deck: 37,00%, 14,76 ft / 4,50 m, 14,76 ft / 4,50 m - Quarter deck: 14,00%, 21,33 ft / 6,50 m, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m - Average freeboard: 17,73 ft / 5,40 m Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 92,0% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 125,4% Waterplane Area: 40 538 Square feet or 3 766 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 93% Structure weight / hull surface area: 205 lbs/sq ft or 1 001 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 0,95 - Longitudinal: 1,54 - Overall: 1,00 Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space Excellent accommodation and workspace room

 Отправлено: 01.03.24 18:08. Заголовок: 1. Французы - с 1906..

1. Французы - с 1906 строят аи - Леон Гамбетта: по схеме "Гёбена" с 5х2 240\50.

2. ответЪ итальянцев - с 1913 г. строятЪ аи-авианосцы "Джиованни Караччиолло" (3 ед. +- Хосё-Сёхо с 1 кормовым подъёмником/краном и носовым бортовым лифтом. 4 аэрофинишера, 3 аварийных барьера, 1 катапульта бортовая. Трубы и "остров" вынесены в спонсонах вне палубы.
в 13000 т (основа проекта "Регина Елена", м.б. с турбинами). Авиагруппа - 40 Капрони С-3аи/быстросборные: 1 750 кг 450-мм торпеда; пробег-разбег 130 м, м -4500 кг, 3х175 лс, 120 км/ч, 150 м высота, 3-4 часа полёт, возможна прото-парашютная система дополнительного торможения (или переход на схему гидросамолёта-амфибии), 3 чел. 6 летающих лодок Кертис. 9 собранных С3 в ангаре под полётной палубой, прочие в нижнем ангаре и трюме.
- laid down 1913, Displacement: 10 673 t light; 11 002 t standard; 12 567 t normal; 13 819 t full load
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Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (551,18 ft / 531,50 ft) x 68,90 ft x (22,97 / 24,72 ft) (168,00 m / 162,00 m) x 21,00 m x (7,00 / 7,54 m) Armament: 8 - 5,98" / 152 mm 45,0 cal guns - 108,07lbs / 49,02kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1913 Model 8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread 8 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas 8 - 2,56" / 65,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 8,45lbs / 3,83kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1913 Model 8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread Weight of broadside 932 lbs / 423 kg Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 2,52" / 64 mm 246,06 ft / 75,00 m 9,84 ft / 3,00 m Ends: 1,26" / 32 mm 246,06 ft / 75,00 m 9,84 ft / 3,00 m 39,37 ft / 12,00 m Unarmoured ends Main Belt covers 71% of normal length - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 1,26" / 32 mm 0,31" / 8 mm - - Armoured deck - single deck: For and Aft decks: 2,01" / 51 mm Forecastle: 0,98" / 25 mm Quarter deck: 0,98" / 25 mm - Conning towers: Forward 0,79" / 20 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm Machinery: Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines, Direct drive, 4 shafts, 20 278 ihp / 15 128 Kw = 21,00 kts Range 8 000nm at 12,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 2 817 tons (100% coal) Complement: 593 - 771 Cost: £0,660 million / $2,641 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 161 tons, 1,3% - Guns: 161 tons, 1,3% Armour: 1 285 tons, 10,2% - Belts: 391 tons, 3,1% - Armament: 24 tons, 0,2% - Armour Deck: 861 tons, 6,9% - Conning Tower: 9 tons, 0,1% Machinery: 1 339 tons, 10,7% Hull, fittings & equipment: 6 629 tons, 52,7% Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 894 tons, 15,1% Miscellaneous weights: 1 260 tons, 10,0% - Hull below water: 980 tons - Hull above water: 160 tons - On freeboard deck: 80 tons - Above deck: 40 tons Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 33 211 lbs / 15 064 Kg = 309,9 x 6,0 " / 152 mm shells or 4,2 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,28 Metacentric height 4,5 ft / 1,4 m Roll period: 13,7 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 100 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,07 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 2,00 Hull form characteristics: Hull has a flush deck, an extended bulbous bow and a round stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,523 / 0,534 Length to Beam Ratio: 7,71 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 23,05 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 41 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 13,00 degrees Stern overhang: 9,84 ft / 3,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 16,00%, 26,25 ft / 8,00 m, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m - Forward deck: 30,00%, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m - Aft deck: 40,00%, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m - Quarter deck: 14,00%, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m, 21,33 ft / 6,50 m - Average freeboard: 23,06 ft / 7,03 m Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 49,3% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 183,8% Waterplane Area: 24 920 Square feet or 2 315 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 223% Structure weight / hull surface area: 169 lbs/sq ft or 824 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 1,73 - Longitudinal: 3,35 - Overall: 1,85 Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space Excellent accommodation and workspace room Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather