Если взрослого мыша взять и, бережно держа, напихать в него иголок Вы получите ежа. Если этого ежа, нос заткнув, чтоб не дышал, Где поглубже, бросить в речку Вы получите ерша. Если этого ерша, головой в тисках зажав, посильней тянуть за хвост Вы получите ужа. Если этого ужа, приготовив два ножа... Впрочем, он наверно сдохнет: Hо идея хороша!
Отправлено: 06.03.17 10:25. Заголовок: Италия - Австрия, 1 Мировая альтернатива (продолжение)
АИ вариант истории: Анонс "Спасение империи требует создания республики!" - с таким лейтмотивом прозвучало обращение к подданным 1 июля 1914 года эрцгерцога Франца Фердинанда, появившегося на площади в Будапеште после неудавшегося покушения в Сараево. Эрцгерцог получил тяжелое ранение, не угрожавшее, однако, его жизни. Обращение привело к последующему объявлению императором Францем Иосифом о начале двуединого правления с Францем Фердинандом. Я. Гашек уже сможет написать: "убили-то подстрелили-то Фердинанда нашего"- сказал Швейк...
Далее было объявлено о создании "Единой республиканской ("семиреспубликанской") Священной империи Центральной Европы. Все эти изменения фактически подводили итог многолетней работе, проводимой Францем Фердинандом. ... После вступления Италии в войну на стороне Антанты в мае 1915 года, в августе последовала стратегическая десантная операция Австро-Венгрии . В районе Римини была высажена Ударная армия, взято побережье Сан-Марино - Комаккьо. Армия продвинулась до Кьеджо (У Венецианского залива), Ровиго, Феррара и Модена с угрозой Падуе, Мантуе и Парме. Передовые отряды на южном фасе заняли перевалы и подходы к Флоренции и ... Итальянский фронт рухнул в течение 3-х недель. Факторами, способствовавшими успехам сухопутных войск были: широкое применение авиации, штурмовых бомбомётов и легких бронированых самоходных устройств-тракторов с бронеавтомобилями. Одновременно королю Италии был предложен договор о мире с весьма мягкими условиями и заманчивыми перспективами сотрудничества.
В Адриатике происходили активные морские действия для предотвращения блокады десанта. Значительная часть работы выполнялась подводными лодками, минными заградителями. Активно действовали линейные и лёгкие силы. Наибольший эффект произошел от применения для высадки специальных десантных кораблей.
Состав флотов в Антанте - реал. Предложения и замечания - ?
Супер Санкт-Георг (11500 т, 27 уз, 3х3 240, 12х1 100, Б,Бш - 160, П - 30-60). Если МЦ мал - то ... увеличим до 13 000 т. и т.д. laid down 1909
Displacement: 9 986 t light; 10 473 t standard; 11 008 t normal; 11 435 t full load Скрытый текст
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (499,99 ft / 482,28 ft) x 62,34 ft x (22,97 / 23,65 ft) (152,40 m / 147,00 m) x 19,00 m x (7,00 / 7,21 m)
Armament: 9 - 9,45" / 240 mm 45,0 cal guns - 425,39lbs / 192,95kg shells, 100 per gun Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1909 Model 1 x 3-gun mount on centreline, forward deck forward 2 x 3-gun mounts on centreline, aft evenly spread 1 raised mount aft 12 - 3,94" / 100 mm 45,0 cal guns - 30,77lbs / 13,96kg shells, 250 per gun Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1909 Model 12 x Single mounts on sides, forward evenly spread 12 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas 4 - 2,60" / 66,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 8,85lbs / 4,01kg shells, 150 per gun Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1909 Model 4 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft Weight of broadside 4 233 lbs / 1 920 kg Main Torpedoes 4 - 17,7" / 450 mm, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m torpedoes - 0,905 t each, 3,619 t total In 2 sets of deck mounted side rotating tubes
Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 6,30" / 160 mm 275,59 ft / 84,00 m 9,84 ft / 3,00 m Ends: 1,57" / 40 mm 183,73 ft / 56,00 m 13,12 ft / 4,00 m 22,97 ft / 7,00 m Unarmoured ends Main Belt covers 88% of normal length
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 4,72" / 120 mm 3,15" / 80 mm 6,30" / 160 mm 2nd: 0,79" / 20 mm - -
- Protected deck - single deck: For and Aft decks: 2,36" / 60 mm Forecastle: 1,18" / 30 mm Quarter deck: 1,57" / 40 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 3,15" / 80 mm, Aft 1,57" / 40 mm
Machinery: Oil fired boilers, steam turbines, Geared drive, 3 shafts, 41 302 shp / 30 811 Kw = 26,50 kts Range 2 200nm at 14,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 962 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 13 311 lbs / 6 038 Kg = 31,6 x 9,4 " / 240 mm shells or 2,6 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,05 Metacentric height 2,7 ft / 0,8 m Roll period: 15,9 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 52 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,98 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,04
Hull form characteristics: Hull has rise forward of midbreak, a straight bulbous bow and large transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,558 / 0,563 Length to Beam Ratio: 7,74 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 25,42 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 57 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 23,00 degrees Stern overhang: 6,56 ft / 2,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 20,00%, 26,25 ft / 8,00 m, 21,33 ft / 6,50 m - Forward deck: 42,00%, 21,33 ft / 6,50 m, 21,33 ft / 6,50 m - Aft deck: 23,00%, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m - Quarter deck: 15,00%, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Average freeboard: 18,85 ft / 5,75 m
Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 87,0% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 141,8% Waterplane Area: 22 012 Square feet or 2 045 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 113% Structure weight / hull surface area: 155 lbs/sq ft or 755 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 1,14 - Longitudinal: 2,57 - Overall: 1,23 Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (584,22 ft / 567,59 ft) x 78,74 ft x (22,97 / 23,60 ft) (178,07 m / 173,00 m) x 24,00 m x (7,00 / 7,19 m)
Armament: 6 - 15,98" / 406 mm 42,0 cal guns - 1 980,10lbs / 898,16kg shells, 90 per gun Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1912 Model 2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline, forward evenly spread 1 x 2-gun mount on centreline, aft deck aft 12 - 3,94" / 100,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 30,77lbs / 13,96kg shells, 180 per gun Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1912 Model 12 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread 12 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas 6 - 2,60" / 66,0 mm 40,0 cal guns - 8,41lbs / 3,81kg shells, 150 per gun Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1912 Model 6 x Single mounts on sides, aft deck forward Weight of broadside 12 300 lbs / 5 579 kg
Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 11,8" / 300 mm 396,98 ft / 121,00 m 9,84 ft / 3,00 m Ends: 3,54" / 90 mm 144,36 ft / 44,00 m 13,12 ft / 4,00 m 26,25 ft / 8,00 m Unarmoured ends Main Belt covers 108% of normal length Main Belt inclined 17,00 degrees (positive = in)
- Torpedo Bulkhead - Additional damage containing bulkheads: 0,79" / 20 mm 396,98 ft / 121,00 m 19,69 ft / 6,00 m Beam between torpedo bulkheads 55,77 ft / 17,00 m
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 11,8" / 300 mm 6,30" / 160 mm 11,8" / 300 mm 2nd: 1,18" / 30 mm - -
- Protected deck - single deck: For and Aft decks: 3,54" / 90 mm Forecastle: 1,57" / 40 mm Quarter deck: 2,36" / 60 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 6,30" / 160 mm, Aft 1,57" / 40 mm
Machinery: Oil fired boilers, steam turbines, Geared drive, 4 shafts, 46 191 shp / 34 458 Kw = 24,00 kts Range 2 800nm at 14,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 1 519 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 30 308 lbs / 13 748 Kg = 14,8 x 16,0 " / 406 mm shells or 4,2 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,17 Metacentric height 4,6 ft / 1,4 m Roll period: 15,3 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 56 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 1,00 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,22
Hull form characteristics: Hull has a flush deck, a straight bulbous bow and small transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,712 / 0,715 Length to Beam Ratio: 7,21 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 25,63 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 52 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 46 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 21,00 degrees Stern overhang: 6,56 ft / 2,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 20,00%, 26,25 ft / 8,00 m, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m - Forward deck: 30,00%, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m - Aft deck: 35,00%, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m - Quarter deck: 15,00%, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m, 21,00 ft / 6,40 m - Average freeboard: 20,31 ft / 6,19 m
Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 105,1% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 160,6% Waterplane Area: 37 173 Square feet or 3 453 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 102% Structure weight / hull surface area: 181 lbs/sq ft or 884 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 1,04 - Longitudinal: 1,71 - Overall: 1,09 Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space Excellent accommodation and workspace room Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily
Что-то есть от Саламиса, что-то от Эспаний и что-то от Рипалсов с Нельсонами. Возможна некая реинкарнация Нагато.
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (490,14 ft / 472,44 ft) x 52,49 ft x (16,40 / 17,15 ft) (149,40 m / 144,00 m) x 16,00 m x (5,00 / 5,23 m)
Armament: 6 - 7,48" / 190 mm 45,0 cal guns - 211,07lbs / 95,74kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1909 Model 1 x 2-gun mount on centreline, forward deck forward 2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline, aft deck aft 1 raised mount aft - superfiring 8 - 4,72" / 120 mm 45,0 cal guns - 53,17lbs / 24,12kg shells, 250 per gun Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1909 Model 8 x Single mounts on sides, forward evenly spread 8 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas 4 - 2,60" / 66,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 8,85lbs / 4,01kg shells, 150 per gun Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1909 Model 4 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft Weight of broadside 1 727 lbs / 783 kg Main Torpedoes 4 - 17,7" / 450 mm, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m torpedoes - 0,767 t each, 3,066 t total In 2 sets of deck mounted side rotating tubes
Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 3,54" / 90 mm 252,62 ft / 77,00 m 9,84 ft / 3,00 m Ends: 1,18" / 30 mm 141,08 ft / 43,00 m 13,12 ft / 4,00 m 78,74 ft / 24,00 m Unarmoured ends Main Belt covers 82% of normal length Main belt does not fully cover magazines and engineering spaces
- Torpedo Bulkhead - Additional damage containing bulkheads: 0,59" / 15 mm 252,62 ft / 77,00 m 13,12 ft / 4,00 m Beam between torpedo bulkheads 45,93 ft / 14,00 m
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 4,72" / 120 mm 2,36" / 60 mm 3,54" / 90 mm 2nd: 0,59" / 15 mm - -
- Armoured deck - multiple decks: For and Aft decks: 2,36" / 60 mm Forecastle: 0,79" / 20 mm Quarter deck: 1,57" / 40 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 2,36" / 60 mm, Aft 0,79" / 20 mm
Machinery: Oil fired boilers, steam turbines, Geared drive, 3 shafts, 33 009 shp / 24 625 Kw = 26,00 kts Range 2 800nm at 14,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 967 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 11 787 lbs / 5 347 Kg = 56,3 x 7,5 " / 190 mm shells or 3,4 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,14 Metacentric height 2,4 ft / 0,7 m Roll period: 14,1 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 53 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,62 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,07
Hull form characteristics: Hull has rise forward of midbreak, a normal bow and large transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,671 / 0,677 Length to Beam Ratio: 9,00 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 24,59 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 57 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 23,00 degrees Stern overhang: 6,56 ft / 2,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 18,00%, 26,25 ft / 8,00 m, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m - Forward deck: 42,00%, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m - Aft deck: 25,00%, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m - Quarter deck: 15,00%, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m - Average freeboard: 17,53 ft / 5,34 m
Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 92,0% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 158,3% Waterplane Area: 20 212 Square feet or 1 878 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 131% Structure weight / hull surface area: 123 lbs/sq ft or 601 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 1,31 - Longitudinal: 1,86 - Overall: 1,36 Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Отправлено: 15.10.20 21:35. Заголовок: Планируется некоторы..
Планируется некоторый пересмотр состава и ТТХ кораблей флота Фердинанда. Параллельно рассматривается вероятность изменения флота Германии и соответствующие реакции прочих стран.
Германия: Начиная с изменения проекта Роона в 1902 г до схемы с ретирадно-возвышенной установкой ГК, т.е. 3х2 210 /мотивация внешняя: возврат к скрепам "бранденбургизации обновлённой по Анри 4"/ и 8 105 - 3 ед, Уменьшается численность броненосцев до 3 в серии Брауншвейг и Дойчланд. Тип Шарнхорст (3 ед: Шарнхорст, Гнейзенау, Блюхер) с 1906 строится с 3х2 280 (240 - ?), 12-16 000 т, 21-23 уз, турбины(?), б 150, п -50 - по схеме аи-Роона и предназначены для рейдерства. Серия Фон дер Танн (ФдТ, Гебен и Мольтке) с 4х2 линейно-ретирадной схемой 280 мм ГК - с 1908. Серия Зейдлиц (Зейдлиц, Лютцов и Дерфлингер) с 4х2 305 с 1910. Серия Шлиффен (условно - Шлиффен, Гинденбург, Маккензен) - с 1912 ( м.б. на 1-2 года раньше) по архитектуре реал-Лютцов при 4х2 350 мм. Дредноуты: 6 Нассау в 1905, 6 Остфрисланд по схеме Исе в 1907, 3 Кайзер с 4-5х2 350 в 1909, 4-6 Байерн с 4х2 380 в 1911. Дальние разведчики (большие КР) с линейно-ретирадной схемой 4х2 210, б 60\п 40, 26-28 уз, 8600 т - тяжёлые, 3-6; 6 - лёгкие с 4х1 210. б 60\п 40, 26-28 уз, 6400 т . Лёгкие - 6-8 ед, с 6-7х1 150, б 60\п 40, 26-28 уз, 6400 т и ближние разведчики - 12-14 ед, 4-6 105, б\п 40, 26-28 уз, 3200 т. ЭМ (Z) - 3 105, 2-3x2 а, 28-30 уз, 900т; МН (D) - 600т, 2 105,2х2 та, 28 уз; МН (F) - 400 т, 2 88, 2х2 та, 2х1 та, 26-28 уз.
Количество крейсеров вероятно уменьшится. Германия-аи планирует создать океанских крейсерских группы по 1 ЛгЛн, 1 Бр, 1 Т, 2 Лг и 3 Всп. КР.
А-В аи имеет колонии к 1914 году: о. Формозу, о. Пандан и Парасельские о-ва. Что можно выделить для "океанской эскадры"?
Насколько необходимы/важны для аи Австро-Венгрии Фердинанда в частности, да и вообще - в т.ч. ри-аи варианты "приобретения" Филиппин и Формозы. М.б. при "договоре" с Китаем в 1892-93 и с Испанией в 1896-97 гг?
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (411,45 ft / 396,98 ft) x 49,21 ft x (16,40 / 17,54 ft) (125,41 m / 121,00 m) x 15,00 m x (5,00 / 5,35 m)
Armament: 2 - 9,45" / 240 mm 45,0 cal guns - 425,39lbs / 192,95kg shells, 120 per gun Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mount, 1906 Model 1 x 2-gun mount on centreline, aft deck aft 4 - 4,72" / 120 mm 45,0 cal guns - 53,17lbs / 24,12kg shells, 250 per gun Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1906 Model 2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline, forward evenly spread 6 - 2,60" / 66,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 8,85lbs / 4,01kg shells, 150 per gun Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1906 Model 6 x Single mounts on sides, forward evenly spread Weight of broadside 1 117 lbs / 506 kg Main Torpedoes 4 - 17,7" / 450 mm, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m torpedoes - 0,728 t each, 2,912 t total In 2 sets of deck mounted side rotating tubes
Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 3,54" / 90 mm 249,34 ft / 76,00 m 13,12 ft / 4,00 m Ends: 1,18" / 30 mm 144,36 ft / 44,00 m 13,12 ft / 4,00 m 3,28 ft / 1,00 m Unarmoured ends Main Belt covers 97% of normal length
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 5,51" / 140 mm 2,36" / 60 mm 4,72" / 120 mm 2nd: 1,18" / 30 mm 0,59" / 15 mm -
- Protected deck - single deck: For and Aft decks: 1,26" / 32 mm Forecastle: 0,71" / 18 mm Quarter deck: 0,94" / 24 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 3,54" / 90 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm
Machinery: Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines, Geared drive, 2 shafts, 21 075 shp / 15 722 Kw = 24,00 kts Range 4 400nm at 12,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 1 108 tons (33% coal)
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 7 639 lbs / 3 465 Kg = 18,1 x 9,4 " / 240 mm shells or 2,2 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,25 Metacentric height 2,6 ft / 0,8 m Roll period: 12,9 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 65 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,48 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,30
Hull form characteristics: Hull has rise forward of midbreak, a straight bulbous bow and large transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,619 / 0,629 Length to Beam Ratio: 8,07 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 22,84 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 57 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 19,00 degrees Stern overhang: 6,56 ft / 2,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 17,00%, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m - Forward deck: 44,00%, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m - Aft deck: 24,00%, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m - Quarter deck: 15,00%, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m, 14,76 ft / 4,50 m - Average freeboard: 17,47 ft / 5,33 m
Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 96,5% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 151,4% Waterplane Area: 15 164 Square feet or 1 409 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 119% Structure weight / hull surface area: 96 lbs/sq ft or 469 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 1,07 - Longitudinal: 2,42 - Overall: 1,16 Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space Excellent accommodation and workspace room Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily
в версии 3х240 ттэ практически не меняются.
проект 1905-7777-2/305-4/120-24: laid down 1906
Displacement: 6 208 t light; 6 493 t standard; 7 200 t normal; 7 765 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (444,26 ft / 429,79 ft) x 52,49 ft x (18,04 / 19,17 ft) (135,41 m / 131,00 m) x 16,00 m x (5,50 / 5,84 m)
Armament: 2 - 12,01" / 305 mm 45,0 cal guns - 873,08lbs / 396,02kg shells, 110 per gun Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mount, 1906 Model 1 x 2-gun mount on centreline, aft deck aft 4 - 4,72" / 120 mm 45,0 cal guns - 53,17lbs / 24,12kg shells, 250 per gun Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1906 Model 2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline, forward evenly spread 6 - 2,60" / 66,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 8,85lbs / 4,01kg shells, 150 per gun Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1906 Model 6 x Single mounts on sides, forward evenly spread Weight of broadside 2 012 lbs / 913 kg Main Torpedoes 4 - 17,7" / 450 mm, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m torpedoes - 0,728 t each, 2,912 t total In 2 sets of deck mounted side rotating tubes
Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 3,54" / 90 mm 291,99 ft / 89,00 m 13,12 ft / 4,00 m Ends: 1,18" / 30 mm 101,71 ft / 31,00 m 13,12 ft / 4,00 m 36,09 ft / 11,00 m Unarmoured ends Main Belt covers 105% of normal length
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 5,51" / 140 mm 2,36" / 60 mm 4,72" / 120 mm 2nd: 1,18" / 30 mm 0,59" / 15 mm -
- Protected deck - single deck: For and Aft decks: 1,26" / 32 mm Forecastle: 0,71" / 18 mm Quarter deck: 0,94" / 24 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 3,54" / 90 mm, Aft 1,18" / 30 mm
Machinery: Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines, Geared drive, 2 shafts, 23 695 shp / 17 677 Kw = 24,00 kts Range 4 400nm at 12,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 1 272 tons (33% coal)
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 9 257 lbs / 4 199 Kg = 10,7 x 12,0 " / 305 mm shells or 2,5 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,21 Metacentric height 2,7 ft / 0,8 m Roll period: 13,4 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 62 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,68 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,24
Hull form characteristics: Hull has rise forward of midbreak, a straight bulbous bow and large transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,619 / 0,628 Length to Beam Ratio: 8,19 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 23,73 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 55 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 19,00 degrees Stern overhang: 6,56 ft / 2,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 17,00%, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m - Forward deck: 44,00%, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m - Aft deck: 24,00%, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m - Quarter deck: 15,00%, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m, 14,76 ft / 4,50 m - Average freeboard: 17,47 ft / 5,33 m
Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 94,3% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 146,4% Waterplane Area: 17 512 Square feet or 1 627 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 119% Structure weight / hull surface area: 121 lbs/sq ft or 590 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 1,15 - Longitudinal: 2,37 - Overall: 1,24 Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space Excellent accommodation and workspace room Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily
- приближается к размерам "типового" ри а-в броненосца.
Цель проработки проекта: возможный проект быстроходного малого БрБО колониальной службы / БрКР-рейдера.
Отправлено: 01.11.20 14:19. Заголовок: Аналог МН типов "..
Аналог МН типов "35 года" (Т-10) и микс МН АВ "74-Т" и германского "А". Проект 1908-400-1/100-4Т-26 (возможно добавление 10 ГлБ и двух 37-66): type laid down 1909
Displacement: 339 t light; 349 t standard; 364 t normal; 375 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (201,43 ft / 187,01 ft) x 19,69 ft x (7,22 / 7,38 ft) (61,39 m / 57,00 m) x 6,00 m x (2,20 / 2,25 m)
Armament: 1 - 3,94" / 100,0 mm 40,0 cal gun - 29,24lbs / 13,26kg shells, 100 per gun Quick firing gun in deck mount, 1909 Model 1 x Single mount on centreline, aft deck aft 1 - 2,60" / 66,0 mm 45,0 cal gun - 8,85lbs / 4,01kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing gun in deck mount, 1909 Model 1 x Single mount on centreline, forward deck forward Weight of broadside 38 lbs / 17 kg Main Torpedoes 4 - 17,7" / 450 mm, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m torpedoes - 0,767 t each, 3,066 t total In 2 sets of deck mounted carriage/fixed tubes /2х2 - 3х2 centre rotating tubes/
Machinery: Oil fired boilers, steam turbines, Geared drive, 2 shafts, 6 613 shp / 4 933 Kw = 26,00 kts Range 600nm at 12,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 26 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 164 lbs / 74 Kg = 5,4 x 3,9 " / 100 mm shells or 0,3 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,20 Metacentric height 0,6 ft / 0,2 m Roll period: 10,6 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 51 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,19 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,02
Hull form characteristics: Hull has rise forward of midbreak, a normal bow and large transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,479 / 0,483 Length to Beam Ratio: 9,50 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 15,71 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 72 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 27,00 degrees Stern overhang: 6,56 ft / 2,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 17,00%, 15,42 ft / 4,70 m, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m - Forward deck: 26,00%, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m - Aft deck: 44,00%, 8,53 ft / 2,60 m, 8,53 ft / 2,60 m - Quarter deck: 13,00%, 8,53 ft / 2,60 m, 9,84 ft / 3,00 m - Average freeboard: 10,75 ft / 3,28 m
Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 172,2% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 114,4% Waterplane Area: 2 502 Square feet or 232 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 59% Structure weight / hull surface area: 25 lbs/sq ft or 121 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 0,65 - Longitudinal: 5,92 - Overall: 0,81 Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space Adequate accommodation and workspace room
Отправлено: 10.11.20 09:49. Заголовок: Продажи и перевод в ..
Продажи и перевод в «аренду» (идея ленд-лиза) - экономия на содержании старых кораблей.
Китай, 1892 – 3 БР (модернизированные «Кустоза» - 8 210/30-35 Крупп вместо 8 260/22, «Эрцгерцог Альбрехт» - 8 210/30-35 Крупп вместо 8 240/22, «Тегетгоф»_? 6 240/30-35 вместо 6 280/22. На всех броненосцах добавлены по 6 150/35. Скорость после ремонта машин, котлов и замены винтов составила 13 узлов. Водоизмещение 6500 т. Добавлены переборки и элеваторы подач снарядов 15 см.) + таранный торпедный крейсер «Пантер» и 6 МН 90 т типа Шихау.
Испания, 1897 – 2 БР («Рудольф», «Стефания»), 3 БрБО («Монарх», «Вена», «Будапешт» - аренда, ТО), 2 БпКР («Франц-Иосиф», «Элизабет»), 2 минных крейсера («Леопард», «Тигр»), 6 МН типа 90 т Шихау
Россия, 1903 – 3 БР («Габсбург», «Арпад», «Бабенсберг» - аренда, ускорены постройкой с 2х2 240), 2 БрКР («Мария-Терезия», «Карл 6»/аи постройка сдвинута и ускорена/), 3 КР типа «Зента» («Зента», «Асперн», «Жигетвар») - аренда, 2 минных крейсера («Магнет», «Сателлит» - модернизация: котлы – 21 уз, арт. - 4-6 66 или 1 120 и 1-2 66), 4 МН типа «Кобра», 4 МН типа 90 т Шихау, 3 ПЛ (тип Норденфельд-Голланд аи 95/120т, 2 та, 7/5 уз).
Мексика, Парагвай, Перу – по 2 старых КЛ, 2 МН, 1ПЛ. + по 4 Мн аи 130т Шихау.
Какие могли быть "заказные" корабли для Абиссинии, бурских республик, Сиама и Китая? И м. б. Португалия-Турция-Скандинавия?
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (449,48 ft / 429,79 ft) x 49,21 ft x (13,12 / 13,44 ft) (137,00 m / 131,00 m) x 15,00 m x (4,00 / 4,10 m)
Armament: 6 - 8,27" / 210 mm 35,0 cal guns - 264,95lbs / 120,18kg shells, 150 per gun Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1891 Model 1 x 2-gun mount on centreline, forward deck forward 2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline, aft evenly spread 8 - 3,46" / 88,0 mm 35,0 cal guns - 19,50lbs / 8,84kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1891 Model 8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread 8 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in all but light seas Weight of broadside 1 746 lbs / 792 kg Main Torpedoes 2 - 15,0" / 380 mm, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m torpedoes - 0,244 t each, 0,488 t total submerged bow & stern tubes
Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 5,51" / 140 mm 229,66 ft / 70,00 m 9,84 ft / 3,00 m Ends: 3,15" / 80 mm 164,04 ft / 50,00 m 9,84 ft / 3,00 m 36,09 ft / 11,00 m Unarmoured ends Main Belt covers 82% of normal length Main belt does not fully cover magazines and engineering spaces
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 2,01" / 51 mm - - 2nd: 1,18" / 30 mm - -
- Protected deck - single deck: For and Aft decks: 1,18" / 30 mm Forecastle: 0,59" / 15 mm Quarter deck: 0,59" / 15 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 3,15" / 80 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm
Machinery: Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines, Direct drive, 2 shafts, 7 744 ihp / 5 777 Kw = 19,00 kts Range 1 200nm at 11,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 297 tons (100% coal)
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 3 340 lbs / 1 515 Kg = 11,8 x 8,3 " / 210 mm shells or 4,4 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,49 Metacentric height 3,4 ft / 1,0 m Roll period: 11,2 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 81 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,33 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,63
Hull form characteristics: Hull has a flush deck, a ram bow and a cruiser stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,543 / 0,547 Length to Beam Ratio: 8,73 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 20,73 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 39 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 19,00 degrees Stern overhang: 6,56 ft / 2,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 18,00%, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m, 14,76 ft / 4,50 m - Forward deck: 30,00%, 14,76 ft / 4,50 m, 14,76 ft / 4,50 m - Aft deck: 37,00%, 14,76 ft / 4,50 m, 14,76 ft / 4,50 m - Quarter deck: 15,00%, 14,76 ft / 4,50 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Average freeboard: 15,24 ft / 4,65 m Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 122,1% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 155,6% Waterplane Area: 14 665 Square feet or 1 362 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 96% Structure weight / hull surface area: 62 lbs/sq ft or 303 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 0,76 - Longitudinal: 0,92 - Overall: 0,78 Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space Excellent accommodation and workspace room Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (378,64 ft / 364,17 ft) x 49,21 ft x (15,09 / 15,19 ft) (115,41 m / 111,00 m) x 15,00 m x (4,60 / 4,63 m)
Armament: 6 - 8,27" / 210 mm 35,0 cal guns - 264,95lbs / 120,18kg shells, 90 per gun Breech loading guns in open barbette mounts, 1890 Model 1 x 2-gun mount on centreline, forward deck forward 2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline, aft evenly spread 12 - 2,60" / 66,0 mm 35,0 cal guns - 8,23lbs / 3,73kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1890 Model 12 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread 12 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas Weight of broadside 1 688 lbs / 766 kg Main Torpedoes 4 - 17,7" / 450 mm, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m torpedoes - 0,411 t each, 1,644 t total In 4 sets of deck mounted side rotating tubes
Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 7,09" / 180 mm 216,54 ft / 66,00 m 8,20 ft / 2,50 m Ends: 2,36" / 60 mm 144,36 ft / 44,00 m 8,20 ft / 2,50 m 3,28 ft / 1,00 m Unarmoured ends Upper: 2,36" / 60 mm 144,36 ft / 44,00 m 8,20 ft / 2,50 m Main Belt covers 91% of normal length Main belt does not fully cover magazines and engineering spaces
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: - 1,18" / 30 mm 3,54" / 90 mm 2nd: 0,79" / 20 mm - -
- Protected deck - single deck: For and Aft decks: 1,42" / 36 mm Forecastle: 0,71" / 18 mm Quarter deck: 0,71" / 18 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 3,54" / 90 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm
Machinery: Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines, Direct drive, 2 shafts, 8 308 ihp / 6 198 Kw = 19,00 kts Range 180nm at 11,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 80 tons (100% coal)
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 1 951 lbs / 885 Kg = 6,9 x 8,3 " / 210 mm shells or 2,1 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,36 Metacentric height 3,0 ft / 0,9 m Roll period: 12,0 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 100 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,68 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 2,00
Hull form characteristics: Hull has a flush deck, a normal bow and large transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,548 / 0,549 Length to Beam Ratio: 7,40 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 22,20 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 46 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 19,00 degrees Stern overhang: 6,56 ft / 2,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 18,00%, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Forward deck: 30,00%, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Aft deck: 37,00%, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Quarter deck: 15,00%, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m - Average freeboard: 17,12 ft / 5,22 m
Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 132,8% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 152,3% Waterplane Area: 12 997 Square feet or 1 207 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 80% Structure weight / hull surface area: 52 lbs/sq ft or 254 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 0,52 - Longitudinal: 1,30 - Overall: 0,57 Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space Excellent accommodation and workspace room Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather
2. аи развитие Чжиюань, аи Китай Ферд аи бпкр 3 класса А-В про laid down 1890 Barbette ship
Displacement: 4 069 t light; 4 190 t standard; 4 235 t normal; 4 271 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (378,64 ft / 364,17 ft) x 49,21 ft x (15,09 / 15,19 ft) (115,41 m / 111,00 m) x 15,00 m x (4,60 / 4,63 m)
Armament: 6 - 5,91" / 150 mm 32,0 cal guns - 95,53lbs / 43,33kg shells, 90 per gun Breech loading guns in open barbette mounts, 1890 Model 1 x 2-gun mount on centreline, forward deck forward 2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline, aft evenly spread 12 - 2,60" / 66,0 mm 35,0 cal guns - 8,23lbs / 3,73kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1890 Model 12 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread 12 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas Weight of broadside 672 lbs / 305 kg Main Torpedoes 4 - 17,7" / 450 mm, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m torpedoes - 0,411 t each, 1,644 t total In 4 sets of deck mounted side rotating tubes
Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 3,54" / 90 mm 216,54 ft / 66,00 m 8,20 ft / 2,50 m Ends: Unarmoured Main Belt covers 91% of normal length Main belt does not fully cover magazines and engineering spaces
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: - 1,18" / 30 mm 3,54" / 90 mm 2nd: 0,79" / 20 mm - -
- Protected deck - single deck: For and Aft decks: 1,42" / 36 mm Forecastle: 0,71" / 18 mm Quarter deck: 0,71" / 18 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 3,54" / 90 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm
Machinery: Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines, Direct drive, 2 shafts, 8 308 ihp / 6 198 Kw = 19,00 kts Range 180nm at 11,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 80 tons (100% coal)
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 3 869 lbs / 1 755 Kg = 37,6 x 5,9 " / 150 mm shells or 2,6 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,37 Metacentric height 3,0 ft / 0,9 m Roll period: 11,9 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 100 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,26 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 2,00
Hull form characteristics: Hull has a flush deck, a normal bow and large transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,548 / 0,549 Length to Beam Ratio: 7,40 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 22,20 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 46 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 19,00 degrees Stern overhang: 6,56 ft / 2,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 18,00%, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Forward deck: 30,00%, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Aft deck: 37,00%, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Quarter deck: 15,00%, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m - Average freeboard: 17,12 ft / 5,22 m
Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 124,9% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 152,3% Waterplane Area: 12 997 Square feet or 1 207 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 102% Structure weight / hull surface area: 85 lbs/sq ft or 414 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 1,00 - Longitudinal: 2,37 - Overall: 1,09 Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space Excellent accommodation and workspace room Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather
3 аи развитие Пиньюань, аи Китай Ферд аи БР 3 класса А-В про laid down 1890 Barbette ship
Displacement: 4 036 t light; 4 190 t standard; 4 235 t normal; 4 271 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (378,64 ft / 364,17 ft) x 49,21 ft x (15,09 / 15,19 ft) (115,41 m / 111,00 m) x 15,00 m x (4,60 / 4,63 m)
Armament: 4 - 9,45" / 240 mm 32,0 cal guns - 391,31lbs / 177,49kg shells, 70 per gun Breech loading guns in open barbette mounts, 1890 Model 2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline, aft evenly spread 12 - 2,60" / 66,0 mm 35,0 cal guns - 8,23lbs / 3,73kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1890 Model 12 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread 12 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas Weight of broadside 1 664 lbs / 755 kg Main Torpedoes 4 - 17,7" / 450 mm, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m torpedoes - 0,411 t each, 1,644 t total In 4 sets of deck mounted side rotating tubes
Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 7,09" / 180 mm 216,54 ft / 66,00 m 8,20 ft / 2,50 m Ends: 2,36" / 60 mm 144,36 ft / 44,00 m 8,20 ft / 2,50 m 3,28 ft / 1,00 m Unarmoured ends Main Belt covers 91% of normal length Main belt does not fully cover magazines and engineering spaces
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: - 1,18" / 30 mm 4,72" / 120 mm 2nd: 0,79" / 20 mm - -
- Protected deck - single deck: For and Aft decks: 1,42" / 36 mm Forecastle: 0,71" / 18 mm Quarter deck: 0,71" / 18 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 3,54" / 90 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm
Machinery: Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines, Direct drive, 2 shafts, 8 308 ihp / 6 198 Kw = 19,00 kts Range 180nm at 11,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 80 tons (100% coal)
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 2 235 lbs / 1 014 Kg = 5,3 x 9,4 " / 240 mm shells or 2,2 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,37 Metacentric height 3,0 ft / 0,9 m Roll period: 11,9 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 100 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,66 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 2,00
Hull form characteristics: Hull has a flush deck, a normal bow and large transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,548 / 0,549 Length to Beam Ratio: 7,40 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 22,20 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 46 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 19,00 degrees Stern overhang: 6,56 ft / 2,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 18,00%, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Forward deck: 30,00%, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Aft deck: 37,00%, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Quarter deck: 15,00%, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m - Average freeboard: 17,12 ft / 5,22 m
Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 131,4% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 152,3% Waterplane Area: 12 997 Square feet or 1 207 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 84% Structure weight / hull surface area: 59 lbs/sq ft or 290 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 0,58 - Longitudinal: 1,49 - Overall: 0,64 Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space Excellent accommodation and workspace room Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather
4 кр 2 кл аи аи развитие Гуаньи, аи Китай Ферд аи кр 2 класса А-В про laid down 1890
Displacement: 4 045 t light; 4 190 t standard; 4 235 t normal; 4 271 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (378,64 ft / 364,17 ft) x 49,21 ft x (15,09 / 15,19 ft) (115,41 m / 111,00 m) x 15,00 m x (4,60 / 4,63 m)
Armament: 10 - 4,72" / 120 mm 40,0 cal guns - 50,53lbs / 22,92kg shells, 180 per gun Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1890 Model 3 x 2-gun mounts on centreline, forward evenly spread 2 x 2-gun mounts on sides, forward deck aft 12 - 2,60" / 66,0 mm 35,0 cal guns - 8,23lbs / 3,73kg shells, 180 per gun Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1890 Model 12 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread 12 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas Weight of broadside 604 lbs / 274 kg Main Torpedoes 4 - 17,7" / 450 mm, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m torpedoes - 0,411 t each, 1,644 t total In 4 sets of deck mounted side rotating tubes
Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 1,57" / 40 mm 216,54 ft / 66,00 m 8,20 ft / 2,50 m Ends: 1,57" / 40 mm 144,36 ft / 44,00 m 8,20 ft / 2,50 m 3,28 ft / 1,00 m Unarmoured ends Main Belt covers 91% of normal length Main belt does not fully cover magazines and engineering spaces
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 1,18" / 30 mm 1,18" / 30 mm - 2nd: 0,79" / 20 mm - -
- Protected deck - single deck: For and Aft decks: 1,42" / 36 mm Forecastle: 0,71" / 18 mm Quarter deck: 0,71" / 18 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 1,57" / 40 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm
Machinery: Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines, Direct drive, 2 shafts, 11 444 ihp / 8 537 Kw = 21,00 kts Range 180nm at 11,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 80 tons (100% coal)
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 2 243 lbs / 1 017 Kg = 42,5 x 4,7 " / 120 mm shells or 1,8 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,59 Metacentric height 3,8 ft / 1,1 m Roll period: 10,7 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 96 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,13 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,91
Hull form characteristics: Hull has a flush deck, a normal bow and large transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,548 / 0,549 Length to Beam Ratio: 7,40 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 22,20 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 52 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 19,00 degrees Stern overhang: 6,56 ft / 2,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 18,00%, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Forward deck: 30,00%, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Aft deck: 37,00%, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Quarter deck: 15,00%, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m - Average freeboard: 17,12 ft / 5,22 m
Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 164,0% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 152,3% Waterplane Area: 12 997 Square feet or 1 207 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 84% Structure weight / hull surface area: 68 lbs/sq ft or 333 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 0,85 - Longitudinal: 1,90 - Overall: 0,93 Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space Excellent accommodation and workspace room Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (378,64 ft / 364,17 ft) x 49,21 ft x (15,09 / 15,19 ft) (115,41 m / 111,00 m) x 15,00 m x (4,60 / 4,63 m)
Armament: 4 - 9,45" / 240 mm 35,0 cal guns - 395,50lbs / 179,40kg shells, 70 per gun Breech loading guns in open barbette mounts, 1890 Model 2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline, aft deck aft 12 - 2,60" / 66,0 mm 35,0 cal guns - 8,23lbs / 3,73kg shells, 180 per gun Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1890 Model 12 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread 12 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas Weight of broadside 1 681 lbs / 762 kg Main Torpedoes 4 - 17,7" / 450 mm, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m torpedoes - 0,411 t each, 1,644 t total In 4 sets of deck mounted side rotating tubes
Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 7,09" / 180 mm 242,78 ft / 74,00 m 8,20 ft / 2,50 m Ends: 1,57" / 40 mm 118,11 ft / 36,00 m 8,20 ft / 2,50 m 3,28 ft / 1,00 m Unarmoured ends Upper: 2,36" / 60 mm 144,36 ft / 44,00 m 8,20 ft / 2,50 m Main Belt covers 103% of normal length
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 1,18" / 30 mm 1,18" / 30 mm 4,72" / 120 mm 2nd: 0,79" / 20 mm - -
- Protected deck - single deck: For and Aft decks: 1,42" / 36 mm Forecastle: 0,71" / 18 mm Quarter deck: 0,71" / 18 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 1,57" / 40 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm
Machinery: Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines, Direct drive, 2 shafts, 5 850 ihp / 4 364 Kw = 17,00 kts Range 180nm at 11,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 80 tons (100% coal)
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 4 460 lbs / 2 023 Kg = 10,6 x 9,4 " / 240 mm shells or 3,3 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,26 Metacentric height 2,6 ft / 0,8 m Roll period: 12,8 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 100 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,73 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 2,00
Hull form characteristics: Hull has a flush deck, a normal bow and large transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,548 / 0,549 Length to Beam Ratio: 7,40 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 22,20 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 40 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 19,00 degrees Stern overhang: 6,56 ft / 2,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 18,00%, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Forward deck: 30,00%, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Aft deck: 37,00%, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Quarter deck: 15,00%, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m - Average freeboard: 17,12 ft / 5,22 m
Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 101,4% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 152,3% Waterplane Area: 12 997 Square feet or 1 207 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 97% Structure weight / hull surface area: 73 lbs/sq ft or 357 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 0,72 - Longitudinal: 1,93 - Overall: 0,79 Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space Excellent accommodation and workspace room Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather
"Китайский заказ", продолжение. Если для "китайских" проектов официальными источниками идей можно назвать "эльсвикские" крейсера, Бодин, Бранденбург, Дюпои де Лом, Нахимов и +- Фюльгия, то каким мог быть "супер- минный" малый крейсер?
Да. В некотором виде, с 2х2 по центру в корме и 4-8х2 по бортам (на борт 4-2х2 бортовых и 2х2 центральных) та. + 5 88\35-40\ 2 из которых в спонсонах на полубаке или сразу за его срезом\между парами бортовых та, 22-23 уз. laid down 1891
Displacement: 902 t light; 930 t standard; 979 t normal; 1 018 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (250,30 ft / 236,22 ft) x 29,53 ft x (9,84 / 10,13 ft) (76,29 m / 72,00 m) x 9,00 m x (3,00 / 3,09 m)
Armament: 5 - 3,46" / 88,0 mm 35,0 cal guns - 19,50lbs / 8,84kg shells, 150 per gun Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1891 Model 3 x Single mounts on centreline ends, majority aft 2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft Weight of broadside 97 lbs / 44 kg Main Torpedoes 4 - 17,7" / 450 mm, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m torpedoes - 0,425 t each, 1,700 t total In 2 sets of deck mounted centre rotating tubes 2nd Torpedoes 8 - 17,7" / 450 mm, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m torpedoes - 0,425 t each, 3,400 t total In 4 sets of deck mounted side rotating tubes
Armour: - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 0,35" / 9 mm - -
- Conning towers: Forward 0,35" / 9 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm
Machinery: Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines, Direct drive, 2 shafts, 6 187 ihp / 4 615 Kw = 22,00 kts Range 800nm at 11,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 88 tons (100% coal)
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 372 lbs / 169 Kg = 17,9 x 3,5 " / 88 mm shells or 0,7 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,69 Metacentric height 1,9 ft / 0,6 m Roll period: 9,0 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 54 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,07 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,08
Hull form characteristics: Hull has rise forward of midbreak, a normal bow and large transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,499 / 0,504 Length to Beam Ratio: 8,00 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 17,87 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 62 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 27,00 degrees Stern overhang: 6,56 ft / 2,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 16,00%, 14,76 ft / 4,50 m, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m - Forward deck: 24,00%, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m - Aft deck: 48,00%, 8,20 ft / 2,50 m, 8,20 ft / 2,50 m - Quarter deck: 12,00%, 8,20 ft / 2,50 m, 9,84 ft / 3,00 m - Average freeboard: 10,37 ft / 3,16 m Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 191,2% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 78,2% Waterplane Area: 4 828 Square feet or 449 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 43% Structure weight / hull surface area: 40 lbs/sq ft or 198 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 0,82 - Longitudinal: 1,92 - Overall: 0,90 Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space Cramped accommodation and workspace room
Отправлено: 17.12.20 19:38. Заголовок: Какой могла быть реа..
Какой могла быть реакция "великих держав" на передачу Австрией вооружения и кораблей с "инструкторами": 1. Китаю в феврале 1894 года и получение Формозы в "аренду"\концессию? 2. Испании в начале января 1898 года и получение о. Катандуанес в "аренду"? 3. России в ноябре 1903 года и получение права на развитие района порта Дальний?
Отправлено: 14.05.21 15:42. Заголовок: Продолжение т. ск.-ь..
Продолжение т. ск.-ь... : А если австрияки применят спаренные палубные установки 90 (88)-мм? На ЭМ: а) 2х2 90 и 2х3та, б) 3х2 90 и 2-3х3 та (на основе Татры) к 1915... КРЛг - 8-10х2 90-мм и 2-4х3 та (на основе Новары). И аи- Санкт-Георг - предлагайте проекты. И "Тегетгофы" могли быть... И конечно - аи-Лохнеры с двумя моторами (в проектах) и автожиры (пусть автором будет отец или дед испанца... :-)) ) - с автоматом перекоса и различным числом двигателей. Понятно, что при двигателе вращения винта горизонтального - аппарат приближается к термину "вертолёт"/геликоптер, но в АИ - всёж-таки он будет автожиром. Аутогироскорий - сам жир :-)
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (376,51 ft / 364,17 ft) x 42,65 ft x (13,12 / 13,64 ft) (114,76 m / 111,00 m) x 13,00 m x (4,00 / 4,16 m)
Armament: 6 - 4,72" / 120 mm 45,0 cal guns - 53,17lbs / 24,12kg shells, 180 per gun Quick firing guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1911 Model 1 x 2-gun mount on centreline, forward deck forward 2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline, aft deck aft 1 raised mount aft - superfiring 8 - 2,60" / 66,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 8,85lbs / 4,01kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1911 Model 8 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft 8 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas Weight of broadside 390 lbs / 177 kg Main Torpedoes 4 - 17,7" / 450 mm, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m torpedoes - 0,913 t each, 3,651 t total In 2 sets of deck mounted side rotating tubes 2nd Torpedoes 2 - 17,7" / 450 mm, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m torpedoes - 0,913 t each, 1,825 t total In 1 sets of deck mounted centre rotating tubes
Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 1,97" / 50 mm 305,12 ft / 93,00 m 8,20 ft / 2,50 m Ends: 0,71" / 18 mm 52,49 ft / 16,00 m 9,84 ft / 3,00 m 6,56 ft / 2,00 m Unarmoured ends Main Belt covers 129% of normal length
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 1,97" / 50 mm 0,98" / 25 mm 3,54" / 90 mm 2nd: 0,47" / 12 mm 0,31" / 8 mm -
- Armoured deck - single deck: For and Aft decks: 0,98" / 25 mm Forecastle: 0,47" / 12 mm Quarter deck: 0,47" / 12 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 1,97" / 50 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm
Machinery: Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines, Geared drive, 2 shafts, 24 059 shp / 17 948 Kw = 27,00 kts Range 2 400nm at 13,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 338 tons (33% coal)
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 2 056 lbs / 932 Kg = 39,0 x 4,7 " / 120 mm shells or 0,9 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,26 Metacentric height 2,1 ft / 0,6 m Roll period: 12,3 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 55 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,30 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,10
Hull form characteristics: Hull has rise forward of midbreak, a normal bow and a cruiser stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,481 / 0,488 Length to Beam Ratio: 8,54 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 19,08 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 60 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 23,00 degrees Stern overhang: 3,28 ft / 1,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 19,00%, 21,33 ft / 6,50 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Forward deck: 44,00%, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Aft deck: 23,00%, 11,81 ft / 3,60 m, 11,81 ft / 3,60 m - Quarter deck: 14,00%, 11,81 ft / 3,60 m, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m - Average freeboard: 15,17 ft / 4,62 m
Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 127,6% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 132,0% Waterplane Area: 10 174 Square feet or 945 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 99% Structure weight / hull surface area: 58 lbs/sq ft or 284 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 0,78 - Longitudinal: 1,70 - Overall: 0,84 Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space Excellent accommodation and workspace room
2) аи "Санкт-Георг" 7000 т, 27 уз, 3х2 240/45, 8 66, 2х2 та, б -100, п - 50 или 37- 3 ед. - laid down 1910
Displacement: 6 052 t light; 6 347 t standard; 6 637 t normal; 6 868 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (446,80 ft / 429,79 ft) x 55,77 ft x (18,04 / 18,52 ft) (136,19 m / 131,00 m) x 17,00 m x (5,50 / 5,64 m)
Armament: 6 - 9,45" / 240 mm 45,0 cal guns - 425,39lbs / 192,95kg shells, 110 per gun Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1910 Model 1 x 2-gun mount on centreline, forward deck forward 2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline, aft deck aft 1 raised mount aft - superfiring 8 - 2,60" / 66,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 8,85lbs / 4,01kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1910 Model 8 x Single mounts on sides, forward evenly spread 8 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas Weight of broadside 2 623 lbs / 1 190 kg Main Torpedoes 4 - 17,7" / 450 mm, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m torpedoes - 0,909 t each, 3,635 t total In 2 sets of deck mounted side rotating tubes
Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 4,02" / 102 mm 288,71 ft / 88,00 m 8,20 ft / 2,50 m Ends: 0,71" / 18 mm 98,43 ft / 30,00 m 9,84 ft / 3,00 m 42,65 ft / 13,00 m Unarmoured ends Main Belt covers 103% of normal length
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 4,72" / 120 mm 2,01" / 51 mm 5,98" / 152 mm 2nd: 0,71" / 18 mm 0,24" / 6 mm -
- Protected deck - single deck: For and Aft decks: 1,46" / 37 mm Forecastle: 0,71" / 18 mm Quarter deck: 0,98" / 25 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 4,72" / 120 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm
Machinery: Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines, Geared drive, 3 shafts, 33 676 shp / 25 122 Kw = 27,00 kts Range 1 800nm at 13,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 521 tons (33% coal)
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 7 444 lbs / 3 377 Kg = 17,6 x 9,4 " / 240 mm shells or 1,8 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,05 Metacentric height 2,3 ft / 0,7 m Roll period: 15,5 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 50 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 1,00 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,01
Hull form characteristics: Hull has rise forward of midbreak, a normal bow and large transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,537 / 0,542 Length to Beam Ratio: 7,71 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 24,06 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 60 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 21,00 degrees Stern overhang: 6,56 ft / 2,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 19,00%, 27,23 ft / 8,30 m, 20,67 ft / 6,30 m - Forward deck: 44,00%, 20,67 ft / 6,30 m, 20,67 ft / 6,30 m - Aft deck: 23,00%, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m - Quarter deck: 14,00%, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Average freeboard: 18,61 ft / 5,67 m
Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 103,3% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 158,6% Waterplane Area: 17 201 Square feet or 1 598 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 102% Structure weight / hull surface area: 114 lbs/sq ft or 557 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 0,91 - Longitudinal: 2,33 - Overall: 1,00 Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (418,92 ft / 403,54 ft) x 45,93 ft x (14,11 / 14,58 ft) (127,69 m / 123,00 m) x 14,00 m x (4,30 / 4,44 m)
Armament: 4 - 7,48" / 190 mm 42,0 cal guns - 202,94lbs / 92,05kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1911 Model 2 x Single mounts on centreline, forward evenly spread 2 x Single mounts on centreline, aft deck aft 1 raised mount aft - superfiring 8 - 2,60" / 66,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 8,85lbs / 4,01kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1911 Model 8 x Single mounts on sides, forward evenly spread 8 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas 4 - 2,60" / 66,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 8,85lbs / 4,01kg shells, 150 per gun Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1911 Model 4 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft Weight of broadside 918 lbs / 416 kg Main Torpedoes 4 - 17,7" / 450 mm, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m torpedoes - 0,913 t each, 3,651 t total In 2 sets of deck mounted side rotating tubes
Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 2,36" / 60 mm 328,08 ft / 100,00 m 8,20 ft / 2,50 m Ends: 0,79" / 20 mm 65,62 ft / 20,00 m 9,84 ft / 3,00 m 9,84 ft / 3,00 m Unarmoured ends Main Belt covers 125% of normal length
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 2,36" / 60 mm 0,98" / 25 mm 2,36" / 60 mm 2nd: 0,47" / 12 mm - -
- Protected deck - single deck: For and Aft decks: 1,50" / 38 mm Forecastle: 0,71" / 18 mm Quarter deck: 0,98" / 25 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 1,97" / 50 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm
Machinery: Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines, Geared drive, 2 shafts, 26 641 shp / 19 874 Kw = 27,30 kts Range 1 800nm at 14,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 383 tons (33% coal)
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 3 507 lbs / 1 591 Kg = 16,8 x 7,5 " / 190 mm shells or 1,2 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,22 Metacentric height 2,2 ft / 0,7 m Roll period: 12,9 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 50 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,49 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,00
Hull form characteristics: Hull has rise forward of midbreak, a normal bow and small transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,503 / 0,509 Length to Beam Ratio: 8,79 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 21,68 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 59 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 21,00 degrees Stern overhang: 6,56 ft / 2,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 17,00%, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Forward deck: 44,00%, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Aft deck: 25,00%, 11,48 ft / 3,50 m, 11,48 ft / 3,50 m - Quarter deck: 14,00%, 11,48 ft / 3,50 m, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m - Average freeboard: 15,05 ft / 4,59 m
Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 115,5% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 143,7% Waterplane Area: 12 681 Square feet or 1 178 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 102% Structure weight / hull surface area: 75 lbs/sq ft or 364 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 0,89 - Longitudinal: 1,54 - Overall: 0,94 Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space Excellent accommodation and workspace room
аи-проект "экономный импортный" - для Голландии, Греции, Испании, Аргентины\Чили, Китая и Турции + и на конкурс аи - для России. аи-Радецкий: laid down 1908, Displacement: 13 273 t light; 14 091 t standard; 14 533 t normal; 14 886 t full load + ПТЗ можно добавить ещё.
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (473,79 ft / 459,32 ft) x 75,46 ft x (22,97 / 23,44 ft) (144,41 m / 140,00 m) x 23,00 m x (7,00 / 7,14 m)
Armament: 9 - 12,01" / 305 mm 45,0 cal guns - 873,08lbs / 396,02kg shells, 110 per gun Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1908 Model 1 x 3-gun mount on centreline, forward deck forward 2 x 3-gun mounts on centreline, aft deck aft 1 raised mount aft - superfiring 8 - 4,72" / 120 mm 45,0 cal guns - 53,17lbs / 24,12kg shells, 180 per gun Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1908 Model 8 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft 8 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas 6 - 2,60" / 66,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 8,85lbs / 4,01kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1908 Model 6 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft Weight of broadside 8 336 lbs / 3 781 kg
Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 14,2" / 360 mm 295,28 ft / 90,00 m 9,84 ft / 3,00 m Ends: 3,94" / 100 mm 131,23 ft / 40,00 m 13,12 ft / 4,00 m 32,81 ft / 10,00 m Unarmoured ends Main Belt covers 99% of normal length
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 13,0" / 330 mm 3,94" / 100 mm 14,2" / 360 mm 2nd: 0,91" / 23 mm 0,47" / 12 mm - 3rd: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
- Protected deck - multiple decks: For and Aft decks: 2,56" / 65 mm Forecastle: 1,18" / 30 mm Quarter deck: 1,18" / 30 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 11,81" / 300 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm
Machinery: Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines, Direct drive, 4 shafts, 29 712 shp / 22 165 Kw = 22,00 kts Range 2 200nm at 11,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 795 tons (60% coal)
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 16 899 lbs / 7 665 Kg = 19,5 x 12,0 " / 305 mm shells or 2,3 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,10 Metacentric height 3,9 ft / 1,2 m Roll period: 16,0 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 55 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,88 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,10
Hull form characteristics: Hull has rise forward of midbreak, a normal bow and a cruiser stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,639 / 0,641 Length to Beam Ratio: 6,09 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 21,43 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 54 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 19,00 degrees Stern overhang: 6,56 ft / 2,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 17,00%, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m, 18,04 ft / 5,50 m - Forward deck: 46,00%, 18,04 ft / 5,50 m, 18,04 ft / 5,50 m - Aft deck: 23,00%, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m - Quarter deck: 14,00%, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m, 14,76 ft / 4,50 m - Average freeboard: 16,67 ft / 5,08 m Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 83,2% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 124,2% Waterplane Area: 26 284 Square feet or 2 442 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 95% Structure weight / hull surface area: 162 lbs/sq ft or 791 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 0,92 - Longitudinal: 1,98 - Overall: 1,00 Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space Excellent accommodation and workspace room
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