Если взрослого мыша взять и, бережно держа, напихать в него иголок Вы получите ежа. Если этого ежа, нос заткнув, чтоб не дышал, Где поглубже, бросить в речку Вы получите ерша. Если этого ерша, головой в тисках зажав, посильней тянуть за хвост Вы получите ужа. Если этого ужа, приготовив два ножа... Впрочем, он наверно сдохнет: Hо идея хороша!
Отправлено: 06.03.17 10:25. Заголовок: Италия - Австрия, 1 Мировая альтернатива (продолжение)
АИ вариант истории: Анонс "Спасение империи требует создания республики!" - с таким лейтмотивом прозвучало обращение к подданным 1 июля 1914 года эрцгерцога Франца Фердинанда, появившегося на площади в Будапеште после неудавшегося покушения в Сараево. Эрцгерцог получил тяжелое ранение, не угрожавшее, однако, его жизни. Обращение привело к последующему объявлению императором Францем Иосифом о начале двуединого правления с Францем Фердинандом. Я. Гашек уже сможет написать: "убили-то подстрелили-то Фердинанда нашего"- сказал Швейк...
Далее было объявлено о создании "Единой республиканской ("семиреспубликанской") Священной империи Центральной Европы. Все эти изменения фактически подводили итог многолетней работе, проводимой Францем Фердинандом. ... После вступления Италии в войну на стороне Антанты в мае 1915 года, в августе последовала стратегическая десантная операция Австро-Венгрии . В районе Римини была высажена Ударная армия, взято побережье Сан-Марино - Комаккьо. Армия продвинулась до Кьеджо (У Венецианского залива), Ровиго, Феррара и Модена с угрозой Падуе, Мантуе и Парме. Передовые отряды на южном фасе заняли перевалы и подходы к Флоренции и ... Итальянский фронт рухнул в течение 3-х недель. Факторами, способствовавшими успехам сухопутных войск были: широкое применение авиации, штурмовых бомбомётов и легких бронированых самоходных устройств-тракторов с бронеавтомобилями. Одновременно королю Италии был предложен договор о мире с весьма мягкими условиями и заманчивыми перспективами сотрудничества.
В Адриатике происходили активные морские действия для предотвращения блокады десанта. Значительная часть работы выполнялась подводными лодками, минными заградителями. Активно действовали линейные и лёгкие силы. Наибольший эффект произошел от применения для высадки специальных десантных кораблей.
Состав флотов в Антанте - реал. Предложения и замечания - ?
Отправлено: 18.04.19 19:19. Заголовок: Так полноценными ЛГК..
Так полноценными ЛГКР "Новары" и были, сранительно даже с Аретьюзами, немногим уступали. Дальность меньше, естественно. А по "нормальным" - м.б. пропустить, и сразу строить "тяжелые", с 7-9-дм? Отталкиваясь от Св. Георга.
Отсутствие надобности в "больших легких крейсерах" рейдерского типа. Эволюция всё-равно приведет к увеличению дальности и размеров со скоростью, но это уже следующее поколение кораблей. А на данный-избранный период вполне подойдет сочетание быстроходных легких лидеров-скаутов, тяжелых скаутов и тяжелых КР для их прикрытия. ТКР могут нести более тонкую бортовую броню в сравнении с "одноклассниками" эпохи - БрКР для возможности сохранения более высокой скорости. Цель - поддержка легких сил, дальняя разведка и противодействие крейсерам неприятеля. Небольшое расстояние от берегов позволяет "прикрываться побережьем, условно, и поэтому может превалировать идея линейно-башенного/барбетного расположения ГК. Особенно учитывая известные проекты крейсеров того времени - 12 орудийный 6 башенный (гексагонально) проект 6000 т КР Скворцова.
1. 8 (4х2)-10(5х2) 100/45-50 или 4-5-6 120/40. 2. Линейка КР-лидеров: а) 6 100, б) 6 120, в) 6 240. Как быть с калибрами (и кораблями для этих калибров) 152 и 203? Что предпочтительнее, ув. коллеги, на ваш взгляд?
Отправлено: 20.04.19 19:29. Заголовок: Немного помечталось ..
Немного помечталось о нано-супердредноуте: для малого флота Сталина-МИМФ и Фердинанда. Возможны более детальные проработки проектов в зависимости от принятия времени постройки. ГК: 4х2 или 4х3 16". борт - 300-360 мм ГК: две башни в корме линейно-возвышенно, 2 линейно в нос от миделя.
минимальный размерЪчик: :-) аи эрцгерцог Михель/Совнарком, аи АВ - аи СССР ЛК laid down 1935
Displacement: 26 452 t light; 28 320 t standard; 29 127 t normal; 29 772 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (750,23 ft / 728,35 ft) x 88,58 ft x (26,25 / 26,71 ft) (228,67 m / 222,00 m) x 27,00 m x (8,00 / 8,14 m)
Armament: 8 - 15,98" / 406 mm 42,0 cal guns - 1 980,10lbs / 898,16kg shells, 130 per gun Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1935 Model 2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline, forward evenly spread 2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline, aft deck aft 1 raised mount aft - superfiring 24 - 3,94" / 100,0 mm 42,0 cal guns - 29,59lbs / 13,42kg shells, 350 per gun Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1935 Model 12 x Twin mounts on sides, evenly spread 20 - 1,46" / 37,0 mm 55,0 cal guns - 1,67lbs / 0,76kg shells, 150 per gun Auto rapid fire guns in deck mounts, 1935 Model 20 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread Weight of broadside 16 584 lbs / 7 523 kg Main DC/AS Mortars 2 - 110,23 lbs / 50,00 kg Depth Charges + 8 reloads - 0,492 t total in Depth charge throwers
Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 12,6" / 320 mm 387,14 ft / 118,00 m 13,12 ft / 4,00 m Ends: 3,15" / 80 mm 301,84 ft / 92,00 m 13,12 ft / 4,00 m 39,37 ft / 12,00 m Unarmoured ends Main Belt covers 82% of normal length Main Belt inclined 17,00 degrees (positive = in)
- Hull void: 0,24" / 6 mm 459,32 ft / 140,00 m 19,69 ft / 6,00 m
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 13,0" / 330 mm 7,09" / 180 mm 11,8" / 300 mm 2nd: 0,71" / 18 mm 0,35" / 9 mm 0,63" / 16 mm 3rd: 0,31" / 8 mm - -
- Armoured deck - multiple decks: For and Aft decks: 4,72" / 120 mm Forecastle: 2,36" / 60 mm Quarter deck: 3,54" / 90 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 3,54" / 90 mm, Aft 4,72" / 120 mm
Machinery: Oil fired boilers, steam turbines, Electric cruising motors plus geared drives, 4 shafts, 109 239 shp / 81 492 Kw = 30,00 kts Range 3 200nm at 14,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 1 452 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 32 109 lbs / 14 564 Kg = 15,7 x 16,0 " / 406 mm shells or 3,2 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,08 Metacentric height 4,8 ft / 1,5 m Roll period: 17,0 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 49 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 1,00 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,03
Hull form characteristics: Hull has raised forecastle, rise forward of midbreak, a straight bulbous bow and large transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,602 / 0,605 Length to Beam Ratio: 8,22 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 30,93 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 53 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 47 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 23,00 degrees Stern overhang: 6,56 ft / 2,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 18,00%, 36,09 ft / 11,00 m, 29,53 ft / 9,00 m - Forward deck: 38,00%, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m - Aft deck: 30,00%, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Quarter deck: 14,00%, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m - Average freeboard: 21,96 ft / 6,69 m
Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 80,4% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 169,1% Waterplane Area: 49 274 Square feet or 4 578 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 97% Structure weight / hull surface area: 165 lbs/sq ft or 805 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 0,84 - Longitudinal: 1,14 - Overall: 0,87 Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (305,33 ft / 295,28 ft) x 26,25 ft x (8,86 / 9,31 ft) (93,07 m / 90,00 m) x 8,00 m x (2,70 / 2,84 m)
Armament: 4 - 4,72" / 120 mm 40,0 cal guns - 50,53lbs / 22,92kg shells, 110 per gun Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1912 Model 3 x Single mounts on centreline, aft deck aft 1 raised mount - superfiring 2 - 1,46" / 37,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 1,56lbs / 0,71kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1912 Model 2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft Weight of broadside 205 lbs / 93 kg Main Torpedoes 10 - 17,7" / 450 mm, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m torpedoes - 0,779 t each, 7,785 t total In 2 sets of deck mounted centre rotating tubes
Armour: - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) 2nd: 0,35" / 9 mm 0,28" / 7 mm -
- Conning towers: Forward 0,35" / 9 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm
Machinery: Oil fired boilers, steam turbines, Geared drive, 2 shafts, 19 229 shp / 14 345 Kw = 30,00 kts Range 1 800nm at 14,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 163 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 392 lbs / 178 Kg = 3,6 x 6 " / 152 mm shells or 0,4 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,29 Metacentric height 1,1 ft / 0,3 m Roll period: 10,7 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 51 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,38 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,01
Hull form characteristics: Hull has rise forward of midbreak, a normal bow and large transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,541 / 0,550 Length to Beam Ratio: 11,25 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 19,35 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 68 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 19,00 degrees Stern overhang: 3,28 ft / 1,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 20,00%, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Forward deck: 27,00%, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m - Aft deck: 40,00%, 9,84 ft / 3,00 m, 9,84 ft / 3,00 m - Quarter deck: 13,00%, 9,84 ft / 3,00 m, 11,48 ft / 3,50 m - Average freeboard: 12,85 ft / 3,92 m
Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 175,1% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 112,4% Waterplane Area: 5 583 Square feet or 519 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 65% Structure weight / hull surface area: 31 lbs/sq ft or 153 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 0,63 - Longitudinal: 2,49 - Overall: 0,72 Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space Adequate accommodation and workspace room
Отправлено: 01.05.19 07:03. Заголовок: Какие можно бы приня..
Какие можно бы принять схемы-формулы вооружений: 3х1 -> 3х2 для эконом-вариантов или 4х1 -> 4х2 для более финансируемых? Для легких и вспомогательных подойдет и 1-2 ГК.
Отправлено: 12.05.19 16:21. Заголовок: Процесс лакировки де..
Процесс лакировки деталей: 1. Если аи АВ в более ранние сроки переходит на большие калибры? Мортиры для БО и плавбатарей (бронеплавбатареи) для защиты портов? По времени совпадает с окончанием гонки калибров и возврату к 12-13-дм Для всех - отсталые австрийцы. Тем более, что опубликованная информация - Якобы неудачи для больших калибров с длиной ствола более 32-35 калибров, успехи в изготовлении мортир и как некий недостаток - малая скорострельность. От 240-мм к 360 и 406-мм до 480? Основные кандидаты: 360 и 410 мм. Гонка калибров возобновляется ли? И поддерживается гонка вооружений в заданном направлении. И вовсе не обязательно АВ примет на вооружение столь большие и дорогие пушки. 2. Раннее развитие ПЛ и ПЛО, ТКА. И легких сил. 3. Более раннее развитие авиации. 4. Авиакрейсер-авиатранспорт. Конкурс на создание проекта.
ТТЭ: 1911 г. 4-6-8 000т, 24-28 уз, 12-36 летательных аппаратов.
Мой вариант предварительный:
laid down 1912
Displacement: 5 591 t light; 5 737 t standard; 6 003 t normal; 6 216 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (459,78 ft / 449,48 ft) x 45,93 ft x (19,69 / 20,20 ft) (140,14 m / 137,00 m) x 14,00 m x (6,00 / 6,16 m)
Armament: 8 - 3,94" / 100,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 30,77lbs / 13,96kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1912 Model 8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread 8 - 2,60" / 66,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 8,85lbs / 4,01kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1912 Model 8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread Weight of broadside 317 lbs / 144 kg
Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 1,89" / 48 mm 213,25 ft / 65,00 m 13,12 ft / 4,00 m Ends: 0,94" / 24 mm 229,66 ft / 70,00 m 13,12 ft / 4,00 m 6,56 ft / 2,00 m Unarmoured ends Main Belt covers 73% of normal length
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) 2nd: 0,47" / 12 mm 0,31" / 8 mm -
- Armoured deck - multiple decks: For and Aft decks: 1,89" / 48 mm Forecastle: 1,02" / 26 mm Quarter deck: 1,02" / 26 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 1,89" / 48 mm, Aft 1,02" / 26 mm
Machinery: Oil fired boilers, steam turbines, Geared drive, 3 shafts, 30 599 shp / 22 827 Kw = 27,00 kts Range 2 200nm at 13,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 478 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 9 186 lbs / 4 167 Kg = 85,1 x 6 " / 152 mm shells or 1,7 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,09 Metacentric height 1,8 ft / 0,6 m Roll period: 14,3 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 66 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,10 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,33
Hull form characteristics: Hull has raised forecastle, a normal bow and large transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,517 / 0,522 Length to Beam Ratio: 9,79 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 24,19 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 55 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 17,00 degrees Stern overhang: 3,28 ft / 1,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 18,00%, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m - Forward deck: 28,00%, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Aft deck: 41,00%, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Quarter deck: 13,00%, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Average freeboard: 17,59 ft / 5,36 m Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 72,8% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 133,6% Waterplane Area: 14 535 Square feet or 1 350 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 165% Structure weight / hull surface area: 126 lbs/sq ft or 617 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 1,73 - Longitudinal: 3,49 - Overall: 1,85 Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space Excellent accommodation and workspace room Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily
Три яруса с самолетами в центральном продольном отсеке, отделен от бортовых бронепереборкой в 12 мм. Бортовые продольные отсеки - краны, подачи, артиллерия, трубы (6 или 4 по схеме "перевернутый табурет"). Две бронепалубы, по типу французских броненосцев, межпалубное расстояние 1,5 м. (заполнение пенобетоном- ? Идея взята у ув. коллеги Мюллера с Аи (о шведском ЛК Тор). Нижняя палуба и скосы верхней - 18 мм, Верхняя горизонтальная и скосы нижней бронепалубы - 30 мм. Борт - 30 (м.б. 60 мм), бронепереборка - 12-18 мм, что-то близкое к схеме бронирования карманных линкоров. Высота самолетных палуб - 3,8-4 м. - 2 палубы, + верхний ангар для готовых аппаратов и верхняя пусковая часть с катапультами в носу. Нижняя самолетная палуба-ангар - на верхней бронепалубе и на уровне ватерлинии или ниже. Верхние ангары и крыша верхнего ангара прикрыты 12 мм броней. В каждом ангаре по 9 аппаратов и два подъемных механизма-лифта, на полетной палубе у взлетных устройств - 6 самолетов, в разобранном виде - 3 самолета. Запасные части - на 6 самолетов. Итого - 36 самолетов, из них 33 готовых. Запасов - на 12 вылетов полного состава.
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (241,58 ft / 236,22 ft) x 59,06 ft x (13,12 / 13,26 ft) (73,63 m / 72,00 m) x 18,00 m x (4,00 / 4,04 m)
Armament: 4 - 15,98" / 406 mm 25,0 cal guns - 1 854,71lbs / 841,28kg shells, 100 per gun Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1909 Model 4 x Single mounts on centreline, evenly spread 8 - 3,94" / 100,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 30,77lbs / 13,96kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1909 Model 8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread 8 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in any sea 4 - 2,17" / 55,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 5,12lbs / 2,32kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1909 Model 2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft 2 x Single mounts on sides, aft deck forward Weight of broadside 7 685 lbs / 3 486 kg
Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 7,99" / 203 mm 144,36 ft / 44,00 m 6,56 ft / 2,00 m Ends: 3,94" / 100 mm 85,30 ft / 26,00 m 6,56 ft / 2,00 m 6,56 ft / 2,00 m Unarmoured ends Main Belt covers 94% of normal length
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) 2nd: 2,36" / 60 mm 0,71" / 18 mm 1,02" / 26 mm 3rd: 1,02" / 26 mm 0,47" / 12 mm -
- Armoured deck - multiple decks: For and Aft decks: 3,62" / 92 mm Forecastle: 1,89" / 48 mm Quarter deck: 1,89" / 48 mm
Machinery: Diesel Internal combustion motors, Geared drive, 2 shafts, 2 009 shp / 1 499 Kw = 12,00 kts Range 800nm at 9,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 89 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 2 850 lbs / 1 293 Kg = 26,4 x 6 " / 152 mm shells or 1,2 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 2,04 Metacentric height 7,0 ft / 2,1 m Roll period: 9,4 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 98 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,53 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,96
Hull form characteristics: Hull has raised forecastle, raised quarterdeck , a normal bow and large transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,574 / 0,576 Length to Beam Ratio: 4,00 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 18,95 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 41 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 9,00 degrees Stern overhang: 3,28 ft / 1,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 17,00%, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m - Forward deck: 30,00%, 9,84 ft / 3,00 m, 9,84 ft / 3,00 m - Aft deck: 41,00%, 9,84 ft / 3,00 m, 9,84 ft / 3,00 m - Quarter deck: 12,00%, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m - Average freeboard: 10,79 ft / 3,29 m Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 85,3% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 96,3% Waterplane Area: 10 372 Square feet or 964 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 87% Structure weight / hull surface area: 64 lbs/sq ft or 313 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 0,49 - Longitudinal: 2,24 - Overall: 0,57 Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space Adequate accommodation and workspace room Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather
Отправлено: 13.05.19 19:24. Заголовок: Второй вариант, легк..
Второй вариант, легкий, гидроавиакрейсера:
26 самолетов в полном составе, в ангарах - 2х7 (нижний - закрытый, верхний - фактически полетная палуба, т.е. временного (непосредственно перед применением, хранения), 1 носовая катапульта, 3 крана (1 кран-мачта в носовом мостике-арке, 2 - в корме, поднимаемый груз до 10 т). laid down 1914
Displacement: 3 714 t light; 3 846 t standard; 4 011 t normal; 4 142 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (382,49 ft / 367,45 ft) x 45,93 ft x (16,40 / 16,80 ft) (116,58 m / 112,00 m) x 14,00 m x (5,00 / 5,12 m)
Armament: 8 - 3,94" / 100,0 mm 42,0 cal guns - 44,00lbs / 19,96kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1914 Model 8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread 8 - 2,60" / 66,0 mm 42,0 cal guns - 20,00lbs / 9,07kg shells, 250 per gun Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1914 Model 8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread Weight of broadside 512 lbs / 232 kg
Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 2,36" / 60 mm 216,54 ft / 66,00 m 13,12 ft / 4,00 m Ends: 1,18" / 30 mm 137,80 ft / 42,00 m 13,12 ft / 4,00 m 13,12 ft / 4,00 m Unarmoured ends Main Belt covers 91% of normal length Main Belt inclined 17,00 degrees (positive = in)
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) 2nd: 0,35" / 9 mm 0,24" / 6 mm -
- Armoured deck - multiple decks: For and Aft decks: 2,36" / 60 mm Forecastle: 1,18" / 30 mm Quarter deck: 1,18" / 30 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 2,36" / 60 mm, Aft 0,59" / 15 mm
Machinery: Oil fired boilers, steam turbines, Geared drive, 3 shafts, 25 721 shp / 19 188 Kw = 27,00 kts Range 1 800nm at 13,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 297 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 5 654 lbs / 2 565 Kg = 52,4 x 6 " / 152 mm shells or 1,2 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,29 Metacentric height 2,5 ft / 0,8 m Roll period: 12,3 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 50 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,12 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,01
Hull form characteristics: Hull has raised forecastle, a normal bow and large transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,507 / 0,511 Length to Beam Ratio: 8,00 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 22,26 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 63 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 19,00 degrees Stern overhang: 6,56 ft / 2,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 18,00%, 24,61 ft / 7,50 m, 21,33 ft / 6,50 m - Forward deck: 30,00%, 14,76 ft / 4,50 m, 14,76 ft / 4,50 m - Aft deck: 39,00%, 14,76 ft / 4,50 m, 14,76 ft / 4,50 m - Quarter deck: 13,00%, 14,76 ft / 4,50 m, 14,76 ft / 4,50 m - Average freeboard: 16,18 ft / 4,93 m
Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 90,2% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 131,9% Waterplane Area: 11 771 Square feet or 1 094 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 125% Structure weight / hull surface area: 84 lbs/sq ft or 409 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 1,18 - Longitudinal: 2,68 - Overall: 1,28 Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Отправлено: 17.05.19 07:48. Заголовок: Немного по лёгким си..
Немного по лёгким силам: Какими могли бы быть торпедные катера? Размеры, скорость, материалы, вооружение и мореходность - ? Категории: малые: 1-2 Т, средние: 2-4 Т и большие: 4-6 Т. Вместо торпед могут нести ГБ.
Плавбатареи мониторного типа модульной конструкции из 5-9 блоков-секций стандартного размера: 2 бортовые с КМУ, 1- центральная с артиллерией ГК, носовая и кормовая, возможно и дополнительные бортовые булеобразные. Можно добавить и дополнительную носовую противоминную наделку-приставку. Получается "поповка" :-)
Гидроавиация. Проект легкого (а - с возможностью применения на авиатранспортах)/среднего (б) разведчика-бомбардировщика-торпедоносца:
полутораплан, одно- (а) или двух - (б) килевой с фюзеляжем в зоне центроплана между моторами (2 шт) на нижнем крыле (толстый профиль с баками и радиаторами - (а), над верхним крылом - (б, для улучшения мореходности), и как вариант (в) - по типу триплана для базовой авиации. Верхнее крыло тонкого профиля может складываться в оконечностях. Два поплавка под моторами с обтекаемой стойкой-баком или центральный поплавок-фюзеляж водоизмещающего типа (в таком случае подвеска вооружения по бортам под центропланом (центральный поплавок - зона мотора). 1912 аи Скорость - 90-120 км/ч, 2х 250-500 л.с., 3-4 часа полета, высота максимальная - 2-3 000 м, 2-3 чел, 2 пулемета, 1 радиостанция, до 800-1600 кг груза (1-2 торпеды авиационного типа (по 600 кг?). Мореходность: взлёт-посадка при высоте волны 0,5-1,0 м.
Размерения: а) 8 в сложенном виде-12- в раскрытом - размах, 7-11 длина, высота - 4-3 м. Для варианта б - 13-15 - 11-12 - 3-4 и. Вес: а) до 2-3-4 т, для б) - 3-4-6 т без груза.
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (226,11 ft / 216,54 ft) x 19,69 ft x (9,84 / 10,37 ft) (68,92 m / 66,00 m) x 6,00 m x (3,00 / 3,16 m)
Armament: 3 - 3,94" / 100,0 mm 40,0 cal guns - 29,24lbs / 13,26kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1912 Model 1 x Single mount on centreline, forward deck forward 2 x Single mounts on centreline, aft evenly spread 2 - 1,46" / 37,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 1,56lbs / 0,71kg shells, 150 per gun Auto rapid fire guns in deck mounts, 1912 Model 2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft Weight of broadside 91 lbs / 41 kg Main Torpedoes 4 - 17,7" / 450 mm, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m torpedoes - 0,640 t each, 2,562 t total In 2 sets of deck mounted carriage/fixed tubes Main DC/AS Mortars 2 - 110,23 lbs / 50,00 kg Depth Charges + 8 reloads - 0,492 t total in Stern depth charge racks
Armour: - Conning towers: Forward 0,35" / 9 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm
Machinery: Oil fired boilers, steam turbines, Geared drive, 3 shafts, 11 574 shp / 8 634 Kw = 28,00 kts Range 1 800nm at 13,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 101 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 222 lbs / 101 Kg = 2,1 x 6 " / 152 mm shells or 0,4 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,16 Metacentric height 0,6 ft / 0,2 m Roll period: 10,9 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 55 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,44 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,07
Hull form characteristics: Hull has rise forward of midbreak, a normal bow and large transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,501 / 0,511 Length to Beam Ratio: 11,00 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 16,67 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 72 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 51 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 21,00 degrees Stern overhang: 3,28 ft / 1,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 17,00%, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m - Forward deck: 26,00%, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m - Aft deck: 43,00%, 9,84 ft / 3,00 m, 9,84 ft / 3,00 m - Quarter deck: 14,00%, 9,84 ft / 3,00 m, 11,48 ft / 3,50 m - Average freeboard: 11,59 ft / 3,53 m
Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 170,9% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 103,0% Waterplane Area: 2 956 Square feet or 275 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 62% Structure weight / hull surface area: 27 lbs/sq ft or 131 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 0,63 - Longitudinal: 5,85 - Overall: 0,79 Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space Adequate accommodation and workspace room
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (196,28 ft / 187,01 ft) x 19,69 ft x (7,55 / 7,94 ft) (59,83 m / 57,00 m) x 6,00 m x (2,30 / 2,42 m)
Armament: 1 - 3,94" / 100,0 mm 40,0 cal gun - 29,24lbs / 13,26kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing gun in deck mount, 1909 Model 1 x Single mount on centreline, aft deck aft 2 - 2,60" / 66,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 8,85lbs / 4,01kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1909 Model 2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck forward Weight of broadside 47 lbs / 21 kg Main Torpedoes 4 - 17,7" / 450 mm, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m torpedoes - 0,628 t each, 2,514 t total In 2 sets of deck mounted carriage/fixed tubes Main DC/AS Mortars 2 - 110,23 lbs / 50,00 kg Depth Charges + 8 reloads - 0,492 t total in Stern depth charge racks
Machinery: Oil fired boilers, steam turbines, Geared drive, 2 shafts, 7 172 shp / 5 351 Kw = 26,00 kts Range 1 200nm at 13,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 65 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 170 lbs / 77 Kg = 1,6 x 6 " / 152 mm shells or 0,4 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,30 Metacentric height 0,7 ft / 0,2 m Roll period: 9,9 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 45 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,19 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 0,79
Hull form characteristics: Hull has a flush deck, a normal bow and large transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,505 / 0,514 Length to Beam Ratio: 9,50 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 15,66 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 73 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 51 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 23,00 degrees Stern overhang: 3,28 ft / 1,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 19,00%, 14,11 ft / 4,30 m, 9,84 ft / 3,00 m - Forward deck: 28,00%, 9,84 ft / 3,00 m, 9,84 ft / 3,00 m - Aft deck: 39,00%, 9,84 ft / 3,00 m, 9,84 ft / 3,00 m - Quarter deck: 14,00%, 9,84 ft / 3,00 m, 9,84 ft / 3,00 m - Average freeboard: 10,17 ft / 3,10 m Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 172,1% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 105,9% Waterplane Area: 2 563 Square feet or 238 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 60% Structure weight / hull surface area: 25 lbs/sq ft or 120 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 0,65 - Longitudinal: 4,60 - Overall: 0,79 Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space Adequate accommodation and workspace room Poor seaboat, wet and uncomfortable, reduced performance in heavy weather
Что-либо типа АВ Т-82 или германских малых типа А - какими могли быть?
Отправлено: 20.05.19 17:44. Заголовок: аи версия КрКрКз (Кр..
аи версия КрКрКз (Красный Кавказ) для аи АВ - МИМФ - Сасанидов. По классификации аи Австрии - АВ - крейсер 2 класса, легкий. По вооружению возможна замена 4х1 190 на 8 (4х2) 150. / А если карманный линкор для Средиземного моря с 240-260 ГК? /
laid down 1911
Displacement: 3 770 t light; 3 940 t standard; 4 214 t normal; 4 434 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (445,17 ft / 433,07 ft) x 36,09 ft x (18,04 / 18,74 ft) (135,69 m / 132,00 m) x 11,00 m x (5,50 / 5,71 m)
Armament: 4 - 7,48" / 190 mm 45,0 cal guns - 211,07lbs / 95,74kg shells, 150 per gun Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1911 Model 2 x Single mounts on centreline, aft deck aft 1 raised mount - superfiring 2 x Single mounts on centreline, forward evenly spread 6 - 3,94" / 100,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 30,77lbs / 13,96kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1911 Model 2 x Single mounts on sides, aft deck forward 2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft Weight of broadside 1 029 lbs / 467 kg Main Torpedoes 4 - 17,7" / 450 mm, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m torpedoes - 0,636 t each, 2,546 t total In 2 sets of deck mounted side rotating tubes
Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 3,15" / 80 mm 288,71 ft / 88,00 m 8,20 ft / 2,50 m Ends: 0,79" / 20 mm 131,23 ft / 40,00 m 9,84 ft / 3,00 m 13,12 ft / 4,00 m Unarmoured ends Main Belt covers 103% of normal length
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) 2nd: 0,71" / 18 mm - 0,71" / 18 mm 3rd: 0,35" / 9 mm - -
- Protected deck - single deck: For and Aft decks: 1,57" / 40 mm Forecastle: 0,79" / 20 mm Quarter deck: 0,79" / 20 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 1,57" / 40 mm, Aft 0,79" / 20 mm
Machinery: Oil fired boilers, steam turbines, Geared drive, 3 shafts, 28 723 shp / 21 427 Kw = 28,00 kts Range 2 800nm at 13,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 494 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 4 435 lbs / 2 012 Kg = 41,1 x 6 " / 152 mm shells or 1,9 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,04 Metacentric height 1,2 ft / 0,4 m Roll period: 14,1 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 73 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,82 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,47
Hull form characteristics: Hull has rise forward of midbreak, a normal bow and large transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,523 / 0,530 Length to Beam Ratio: 12,00 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 23,38 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 55 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 21,00 degrees Stern overhang: 3,28 ft / 1,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 18,00%, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m, 18,04 ft / 5,50 m - Forward deck: 30,00%, 18,04 ft / 5,50 m, 18,04 ft / 5,50 m - Aft deck: 38,00%, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m - Quarter deck: 14,00%, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m, 14,76 ft / 4,50 m - Average freeboard: 15,95 ft / 4,86 m
Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 101,9% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 122,1% Waterplane Area: 11 066 Square feet or 1 028 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 122% Structure weight / hull surface area: 83 lbs/sq ft or 404 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 1,19 - Longitudinal: 3,01 - Overall: 1,31 Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space Excellent accommodation and workspace room Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (515,32 ft / 498,69 ft) x 55,77 ft x (19,69 / 20,29 ft) (157,07 m / 152,00 m) x 17,00 m x (6,00 / 6,18 m)
Armament: 6 - 9,45" / 240 mm 45,0 cal guns - 425,39lbs / 192,95kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1911 Model 2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline, aft deck aft 1 raised mount - superfiring 1 x 2-gun mount on centreline, forward deck forward 8 - 3,94" / 100,0 mm 40,0 cal guns - 29,24lbs / 13,26kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1911 Model 4 x Single mounts on sides, aft deck forward 4 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft 4 - 2,60" / 66,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 8,85lbs / 4,01kg shells, 150 per gun Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1911 Model 2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft 2 x Single mounts on sides, aft deck forward Weight of broadside 2 822 lbs / 1 280 kg
Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 5,51" / 140 mm 278,87 ft / 85,00 m 13,12 ft / 4,00 m Ends: 1,57" / 40 mm 180,45 ft / 55,00 m 13,12 ft / 4,00 m 39,37 ft / 12,00 m Unarmoured ends Main Belt covers 86% of normal length Main Belt inclined 17,00 degrees (positive = in)
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) 2nd: 4,72" / 120 mm 2,36" / 60 mm 6,30" / 160 mm 3rd: 0,35" / 9 mm - -
- Protected deck - multiple decks: For and Aft decks: 3,15" / 80 mm Forecastle: 1,77" / 45 mm Quarter deck: 1,97" / 50 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 4,72" / 120 mm, Aft 1,18" / 30 mm
Machinery: Oil fired boilers, steam turbines, Geared drive, 4 shafts, 39 092 shp / 29 163 Kw = 27,00 kts Range 2 800nm at 13,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 803 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 11 655 lbs / 5 287 Kg = 107,9 x 6 " / 152 mm shells or 1,7 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,06 Metacentric height 2,3 ft / 0,7 m Roll period: 15,4 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 49 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,88 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,01
Hull form characteristics: Hull has raised forecastle, rise forward of midbreak, a straight bulbous bow and large transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,576 / 0,581 Length to Beam Ratio: 8,94 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 25,50 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 56 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 48 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 21,00 degrees Stern overhang: 6,56 ft / 2,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 18,00%, 26,25 ft / 8,00 m, 21,33 ft / 6,50 m - Forward deck: 38,00%, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m - Aft deck: 30,00%, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m - Quarter deck: 14,00%, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m, 14,76 ft / 4,50 m - Average freeboard: 17,56 ft / 5,35 m
Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 83,6% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 143,4% Waterplane Area: 20 720 Square feet or 1 925 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 110% Structure weight / hull surface area: 115 lbs/sq ft or 561 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 1,00 - Longitudinal: 1,58 - Overall: 1,05 Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (312,67 ft / 301,84 ft) x 26,25 ft x (11,48 / 12,03 ft) (95,30 m / 92,00 m) x 8,00 m x (3,50 / 3,67 m)
Armament: 6 - 4,72" / 120 mm 40,0 cal guns - 50,53lbs / 22,92kg shells, 150 per gun Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1913 Model 1 x 2-gun mount on centreline, forward deck forward 2 x 2-gun mounts on sides, aft deck centre Weight of broadside 303 lbs / 138 kg Main Torpedoes 4 - 17,7" / 450 mm, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m torpedoes - 0,644 t each, 2,578 t total In 2 sets of deck mounted centre rotating tubes 2nd Torpedoes 4 - 17,7" / 450 mm, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m torpedoes - 0,644 t each, 2,578 t total In 2 sets of deck mounted side rotating tubes Main DC/AS Mortars 2 - 132,28 lbs / 60,00 kg Depth Charges + 8 reloads - 0,591 t total in Stern depth charge racks
Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 0,47" / 12 mm 196,85 ft / 60,00 m 9,84 ft / 3,00 m Ends: Unarmoured Main Belt covers 100% of normal length Main belt does not fully cover magazines and engineering spaces
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) 2nd: 0,35" / 9 mm - -
- Armoured deck - multiple decks: For and Aft decks: 0,47" / 12 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 0,47" / 12 mm, Aft 0,35" / 9 mm
Machinery: Oil fired boilers, steam turbines, Geared drive, 3 shafts, 18 882 shp / 14 086 Kw = 29,00 kts Range 2 400nm at 13,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 197 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 578 lbs / 262 Kg = 5,3 x 6 " / 152 mm shells or 0,6 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,22 Metacentric height 1,0 ft / 0,3 m Roll period: 11,2 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 59 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,52 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,18
Hull form characteristics: Hull has rise forward of midbreak, a normal bow and large transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,519 / 0,528 Length to Beam Ratio: 11,50 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 19,58 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 66 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 21,00 degrees Stern overhang: 3,28 ft / 1,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 18,00%, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Forward deck: 28,00%, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Aft deck: 42,00%, 9,84 ft / 3,00 m, 9,84 ft / 3,00 m - Quarter deck: 12,00%, 9,84 ft / 3,00 m, 11,48 ft / 3,50 m - Average freeboard: 13,20 ft / 4,02 m
Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 160,6% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 101,6% Waterplane Area: 5 588 Square feet or 519 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 80% Structure weight / hull surface area: 36 lbs/sq ft or 177 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 0,70 - Longitudinal: 3,05 - Overall: 0,81 Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space Adequate accommodation and workspace room
Displacement: 1 186 t light; 1 239 t standard; 1 349 t normal; 1 437 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (312,67 ft / 301,84 ft) x 26,25 ft x (11,48 / 12,03 ft) (95,30 m / 92,00 m) x 8,00 m x (3,50 / 3,67 m)
Armament: 6 - 4,72" / 120 mm 40,0 cal guns - 50,53lbs / 22,92kg shells, 150 per gun Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1913 Model 1 x 2-gun mount on centreline, forward deck forward 2 x 2-gun mounts on sides, aft deck centre 2 - 2,60" / 66,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 8,85lbs / 4,01kg shells, 150 per gun Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1913 Model 2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft Weight of broadside 321 lbs / 146 kg Main Torpedoes 4 - 17,7" / 450 mm, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m torpedoes - 0,644 t each, 2,578 t total In 2 sets of deck mounted centre rotating tubes 2nd Torpedoes 4 - 17,7" / 450 mm, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m torpedoes - 0,644 t each, 2,578 t total In 2 sets of deck mounted side rotating tubes Main DC/AS Mortars 2 - 132,28 lbs / 60,00 kg Depth Charges + 8 reloads - 0,591 t total in Stern depth charge racks
Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 0,47" / 12 mm 196,85 ft / 60,00 m 9,84 ft / 3,00 m Ends: Unarmoured Main Belt covers 100% of normal length Main belt does not fully cover magazines and engineering spaces
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) 2nd: 0,35" / 9 mm - -
- Armoured deck - multiple decks: For and Aft decks: 0,47" / 12 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 0,47" / 12 mm, Aft 0,35" / 9 mm
Machinery: Oil fired boilers, steam turbines, Geared drive, 3 shafts, 24 950 shp / 18 613 Kw = 31,00 kts Range 2 400nm at 13,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 197 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 410 lbs / 186 Kg = 3,8 x 6 " / 152 mm shells or 0,5 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,30 Metacentric height 1,1 ft / 0,3 m Roll period: 10,6 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 50 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,49 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,00
Hull form characteristics: Hull has rise forward of midbreak, a normal bow and large transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,519 / 0,528 Length to Beam Ratio: 11,50 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 19,58 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 69 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 21,00 degrees Stern overhang: 3,28 ft / 1,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 18,00%, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Forward deck: 28,00%, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Aft deck: 42,00%, 9,84 ft / 3,00 m, 9,84 ft / 3,00 m - Quarter deck: 12,00%, 9,84 ft / 3,00 m, 11,48 ft / 3,50 m - Average freeboard: 13,20 ft / 4,02 m
Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 175,9% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 101,6% Waterplane Area: 5 588 Square feet or 519 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 62% Structure weight / hull surface area: 31 lbs/sq ft or 152 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 0,57 - Longitudinal: 2,61 - Overall: 0,67 Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space Adequate accommodation and workspace room
-/-/-/-/- ЭМ 2 кл АВ 900т, х-Торденскольд laid down 1910
Displacement: 779 t light; 811 t standard; 902 t normal; 974 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (279,97 ft / 269,03 ft) x 22,97 ft x (9,84 / 10,43 ft) (85,33 m / 82,00 m) x 7,00 m x (3,00 / 3,18 m)
Armament: 3 - 4,72" / 120 mm 40,0 cal guns - 50,53lbs / 22,92kg shells, 150 per gun Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1910 Model 1 x Single mount on centreline, forward deck forward 2 x Single mounts on centreline, aft evenly spread 2 - 2,60" / 66,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 8,85lbs / 4,01kg shells, 150 per gun Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1910 Model 2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft Weight of broadside 169 lbs / 77 kg Main Torpedoes 6 - 17,7" / 450 mm, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m torpedoes - 0,632 t each, 3,795 t total In 3 sets of deck mounted centre rotating tubes
Armour: - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) 2nd: 0,28" / 7 mm - -
- Conning towers: Forward 0,47" / 12 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm
Machinery: Oil fired boilers, steam turbines, Geared drive, 2 shafts, 15 510 shp / 11 570 Kw = 29,00 kts Range 2 200nm at 13,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 163 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 330 lbs / 150 Kg = 3,1 x 6 " / 152 mm shells or 0,5 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,24 Metacentric height 0,8 ft / 0,2 m Roll period: 10,7 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 56 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,45 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,12
Hull form characteristics: Hull has rise forward of midbreak, a normal bow and large transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,519 / 0,529 Length to Beam Ratio: 11,71 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 18,46 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 68 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 23,00 degrees Stern overhang: 3,28 ft / 1,00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 18,00%, 18,04 ft / 5,50 m, 14,76 ft / 4,50 m - Forward deck: 26,00%, 14,76 ft / 4,50 m, 14,76 ft / 4,50 m - Aft deck: 42,00%, 9,84 ft / 3,00 m, 9,84 ft / 3,00 m - Quarter deck: 14,00%, 9,84 ft / 3,00 m, 9,84 ft / 3,00 m - Average freeboard: 12,24 ft / 3,73 m
Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 172,9% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 94,4% Waterplane Area: 4 358 Square feet or 405 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 67% Structure weight / hull surface area: 30 lbs/sq ft or 145 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 0,64 - Longitudinal: 3,39 - Overall: 0,75 Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space Adequate accommodation and workspace room
аи скаут-лгкр 2 класса. В предварительных схемах предлагались большая дальность - до 4000 миль, более основательное бронирование и/или боее высокая скорость. ГК поначалу приравнивался к 120-мм/42 орудиям. Крейсер лёгкий 1 кл предполагается подобным, но с 4х1 190-мм/42
"Новара" аи, аи АВ аи ЛгКр-скаутЪ laid down 1911
Displacement: 3 253 t light; 3 455 t standard; 3 709 t normal; 3 912 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (420,56 ft / 406,82 ft) x 36,09 ft x (16,40 / 17,08 ft) (128,19 m / 124,00 m) x 11,00 m x (5,00 / 5,21 m)
Armament: 8 - 5,91" / 150 mm 42,0 cal guns - 99,86lbs / 45,29kg shells, 230 per gun Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1911 Model 2 x Twin mounts on centreline, forward evenly spread 2 x Twin mounts layout not set 1 raised mount 8 - 3,94" / 100,0 mm 42,0 cal guns - 29,59lbs / 13,42kg shells, 180 per gun Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1911 Model 8 x Single mounts on sides, forward evenly spread 8 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas 4 - 2,60" / 66,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 8,85lbs / 4,01kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1911 Model 4 x Single mounts on sides, aft deck forward Weight of broadside 1 071 lbs / 486 kg Main Torpedoes 4 - 17,7" / 450 mm, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m torpedoes - 0,636 t each, 2,546 t total In 2 sets of deck mounted carriage/fixed tubes
Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 2,36" / 60 mm 334,65 ft / 102,00 m 9,84 ft / 3,00 m Ends: 1,18" / 30 mm 49,21 ft / 15,00 m 9,84 ft / 3,00 m 22,97 ft / 7,00 m Unarmoured ends Main Belt covers 127% of normal length
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) 2nd: 1,18" / 30 mm 0,59" / 15 mm - 3rd: 0,59" / 15 mm - -
- Armoured deck - multiple decks: For and Aft decks: 1,73" / 44 mm Forecastle: 0,87" / 22 mm Quarter deck: 0,87" / 22 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 2,36" / 60 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm
Machinery: Oil fired boilers, steam turbines, Geared drive, 3 shafts, 31 451 shp / 23 462 Kw = 29,00 kts Range 2 800nm at 13,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 457 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 2 715 lbs / 1 232 Kg = 25,1 x 6 " / 152 mm shells or 1,3 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,21 Metacentric height 1,5 ft / 0,5 m Roll period: 12,2 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 53 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,56 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,06
Hull form characteristics: Hull has rise forward of midbreak, a straight bulbous bow and large transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,539 / 0,546 Length to Beam Ratio: 11,27 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 22,72 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 60 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 21,00 degrees Stern overhang: 4,92 ft / 1,50 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 18,00%, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Forward deck: 40,00%, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m - Aft deck: 28,00%, 9,84 ft / 3,00 m, 9,84 ft / 3,00 m - Quarter deck: 14,00%, 9,84 ft / 3,00 m, 11,48 ft / 3,50 m - Average freeboard: 14,24 ft / 4,34 m
Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 126,1% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 115,9% Waterplane Area: 10 556 Square feet or 981 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 101% Structure weight / hull surface area: 64 lbs/sq ft or 310 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 0,94 - Longitudinal: 1,85 - Overall: 1,00 Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space Adequate accommodation and workspace room
И авиакрейсер на основе проекта корпуса. 18 аппаратов (верхний ярус/самолетная палуба - на 6-8 самолетов в готовности к катапультированию - открытый с носовой катапультой и лифтом из закрытого ангара. Закрытый ангар - на 7 самолетов, имеет кормовые шторы для сообщения с верхней палубой. В кормовой части верхней палубы 3-4 площадки для напужного хранения и подъёма-спуска на воду самолетов). Мостики арочного типа, совмещены с кранами, трубы разнесены побортно с бортовой батареей 100-мм опираются-вынесены на спонсоны
аи АВ гидроавиакрейсер "Метеор"laid down 1911
Displacement: 3 355 t light; 3 455 t standard; 3 709 t normal; 3 912 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (420,56 ft / 406,82 ft) x 36,09 ft x (16,40 / 17,08 ft) (128,19 m / 124,00 m) x 11,00 m x (5,00 / 5,21 m)
Armament: 8 - 3,94" / 100,0 mm 42,0 cal guns - 29,59lbs / 13,42kg shells, 180 per gun Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1911 Model 8 x Single mounts on sides, forward evenly spread 8 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas 4 - 2,60" / 66,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 8,85lbs / 4,01kg shells, 150 per gun Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1911 Model 4 x Single mounts on sides, aft deck forward Weight of broadside 272 lbs / 123 kg Main Torpedoes 4 - 17,7" / 450 mm, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m torpedoes - 0,636 t each, 2,546 t total In 2 sets of deck mounted carriage/fixed tubes
Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 2,36" / 60 mm 334,65 ft / 102,00 m 9,84 ft / 3,00 m Ends: 1,18" / 30 mm 49,21 ft / 15,00 m 9,84 ft / 3,00 m 22,97 ft / 7,00 m Unarmoured ends Main Belt covers 127% of normal length Main belt does not fully cover magazines and engineering spaces
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) 3rd: 0,59" / 15 mm - -
- Armoured deck - multiple decks: For and Aft decks: 1,73" / 44 mm Forecastle: 0,87" / 22 mm Quarter deck: 0,87" / 22 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 2,36" / 60 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm
Machinery: Oil fired boilers, steam turbines, Geared drive, 3 shafts, 31 451 shp / 23 462 Kw = 29,00 kts Range 2 800nm at 13,00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 457 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 1 684 lbs / 764 Kg = 15,6 x 6 " / 152 mm shells or 1,1 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,19 Metacentric height 1,5 ft / 0,5 m Roll period: 12,4 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 82 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,15 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,63
Hull form characteristics: Hull has rise forward of midbreak, a straight bulbous bow and large transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,539 / 0,546 Length to Beam Ratio: 11,27 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 22,72 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 60 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 21,00 degrees Stern overhang: 4,92 ft / 1,50 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 18,00%, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m - Forward deck: 55,00%, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m - Aft deck: 16,00%, 9,84 ft / 3,00 m, 9,84 ft / 3,00 m - Quarter deck: 11,00%, 9,84 ft / 3,00 m, 11,48 ft / 3,50 m - Average freeboard: 17,35 ft / 5,29 m
Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 130,5% - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 147,7% Waterplane Area: 10 556 Square feet or 981 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 93% Structure weight / hull surface area: 34 lbs/sq ft or 164 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 0,52 - Longitudinal: 1,76 - Overall: 0,59 Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space Excellent accommodation and workspace room Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather
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